Since there seems to be a concerted effort by a lot of folks on this forum to do away with the spinners, I thought I might provide some information that might help you out - these are facts - I did not make this stuff up. Current US wide harvest numbers are around 16,000,000 ducks - consistent numbers with many years past - I am speaking of years past being even back in the 1970's. The overall waterfowl population is currently 21% above the long term average. Most individual waterfowl species are above their long term averages (with a few exceptions). The Arkansas average harvest lately has been about 1.1 million birds, which is considerably above the past historical average (1970's was 700,000 to 800,000). These numbers indicate that the current population (and the past ten yrs) is healthy, and in fact above the long term average, and we hunters have enjoyed liberal bag limits and lenghthy seasons as a result. Hunting seasons and bag limits are set with two primary considerations - continued health of the population, and to provide as much hunter opportunity without adversely affecting the populations. That being said, considering waterfowl populations at 21% above the long term average, hunting season length, bag limits, and other restrictions or lack there of, have not subjected waterfowl populations to over harvest. In fact, these harvest totals have been sustained for a period of 15 years. Coincidently, within this same timeframe, spinners have been legal practically nationwide, with a few exceptions. It is apparent the use of spinners has not adversely affected duck populations. The point I am trying to make here is that using the reasoning that too many juvenile birds, or too many birds in general are being harvested as a result of using spinners, does not really prove to be true. Even if increased ducks were harvested due to the use of spinners, it is not necessarily a bad thing. In fact, that could actually be looked at as a good thing under present conditions. The fact that the population is healthy and sustaining increased harvest (which means increased hunter opportunity), this may actually be viewed as a good thing by the season and regulation setting folks. This is similar to deer hunting - you have a healthy deer population and the state increases the gun season by one week, and the population stays the same or actually increases, so now they decided they will legalize the use of crossbows (providing more hunter opportunity) and still the population maintains itself, so now they let you muzzle load hunt for an extra week to provide more hunter opportunity, and so on - everything is good - healthy deer herd and increased hunter opportunity. And the point about spinners being more effective on the juvenile ducks - what else would you expect. If you did a study on the effectivness of using a duck call - do you think calling would be more effective on juveniles or adults? What about regular decoys - do you think it would be easier to decoy juveniles, or adults. It would be very difficult to prove that spinners are having an adverse effect on the overall health of duck populations. In Arkansas, duck harvest numbers have averaged for the most part around 1.1 million ducks since 2002, with the exception of 2008 when harvest jumped up to around 1.3 million. The seasons of 2005 and 2006, when spinners were outlawed, showed no appreciable increase or decrease in harvest numbers - again, an indicator that spinners do not have an adverse impact on the overall health of the duck population. Now, as far as tradition - tradition, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. My dad cut his teeth duck hunting in the 1930's with live decoys and unplugged guns - that was the tradition in those days. No consideration was given to passing a hen - they were all ducks. Of course, today we would not consider hunting over live decoys with unplugged guns traditional. My dad was a big bowhunter, way before it got really popular. I always thought it odd that he badmouthed compound bows as non-traditional, too easy, "cheaters" as he called them, when he at one time killed ducks over live decoys. Most bowhunters today have probably never killed a deer with a longbow or a recurve - but compound bows were once the "spinners" of the bowhunting world but now they are considered the weapon of choice for bowhunters. Just because you ban spinners does not mean there won't be folks moving in on you trying to shoot your swing ducks. There were folks doing that before spinners (even though I have been told I don't know what I am talking about) and I would bet they will be doing that even if spinners were banned. Heck, the way everybody talks about how easy it is to kill ducks with spinners, you take them away and the newbie's or unskilled might have not have a choice but to move in on the guys that "know how to hunt" - just so they can get a shot! Oh, and next time you see Phil Robertson, you might pass on to him that anybody that would use a spinner does not know anything about real hunting, tradition, or duck calling.