My dad once found an old work bench vice outside somewhere. When he brought it home it was a big lump of mud and rust. It took most of a Summer or banging, chipping, soaking w/ oil and worrying it (more banging). About 20 years later, that vice is still on my work bench.The fact that i found this makes it more valuable to me. I am a sucker for a story with everything. O yeah, when my boss seen it he said " you will never get that piece of junk working". Amazing what a little of JB-80 will do!