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I have to question anyone who would willingly let someone else kill that once in a hundred lifetimes kind of elk. If you are the outfitter can you really see letting someone else kill the world record? Nope if you love the sport and respect the sport then you go after him yourself. Forget making money on the guided hunt. I would want that bull and want it on MY WALL!
 

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understand this bull was hunted by gangs of Mossback paid scouters .... he was literally hounded for 30 days before a $175,000 governor tag buyer shot him

this bull is the best example yet of how horn porn will drive people to do ANYTHING to get their names in a book or to kill an animal with giant horns at any cost

the shooter bought the bull, paid Mossback an outrageous price I'm certain and Mossback and his army of scouters with GPS's and radio's and ATV's finally cornered the bull and camped on him long enough for the shooter to get a shot

make me want to puke, there is no honor or admiration or anything for this guy to me .... I'm more impressed with someone killing a spike bull do it yourself style than what he done here
 

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make me want to puke, there is no honor or admiration or anything for this guy to me .... I'm more impressed with someone killing a spike bull do it yourself style than what he done here [/QUOTE]

I agree with you.
 

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understand this bull was hunted by gangs of Mossback paid scouters .... he was literally hounded for 30 days before a $175,000 governor tag buyer shot him

this bull is the best example yet of how horn porn will drive people to do ANYTHING to get their names in a book or to kill an animal with giant horns at any cost

the shooter bought the bull, paid Mossback an outrageous price I'm certain and Mossback and his army of scouters with GPS's and radio's and ATV's finally cornered the bull and camped on him long enough for the shooter to get a shot

make me want to puke, there is no honor or admiration or anything for this guy to me .... I'm more impressed with someone killing a spike bull do it yourself style than what he done here
If that's how it went down, and I bet you are right, it makes me want to puke as well. There is no honor and respect of the animal when it is killed in that scenario. They are just in it for the money and bragging rights and its a damn shame!:down:
 

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define "fair chase" ?

From all I've read, it WAS legal ..... meaning you can pay someone and his group of cronies $50,000 to search for, find, and literally camp on a huge animals and call from a satellite phone the GPS coordinates so the shooter can come in during the night and set up for the shot at daybreak.
 

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define "fair chase" ?

From all I've read, it WAS legal ..... meaning you can pay someone and his group of cronies $50,000 to search for, find, and literally camp on a huge animals and call from a satellite phone the GPS coordinates so the shooter can come in during the night and set up for the shot at daybreak.
That may be legal, but it don't sound fair. Smacks of a "canned hunt" in my very humble opinion.

Of course, to be truley fair, you need to hunt with sharp sticks and be completely naked, so I suppose we've all cheated a bit....:cool:
 

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I don't fault the idiot who paid the money. I fault the outfitter who found the bull and did all this for the all mighty dollar. That is what I am saying. If you are just in it for the money then I hope you go belly up! May your bank account run dry and your 401k be in the negative! There are always fools who want to buy what they cannot acheive the honest way. The question is are you willing to compromise the sport you make you living from for a big paycheck?
 

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4 years ago I paid a guy $500 to scout and find me a big Colorado muley buck, and give me the are that buck was in. Why? I wanted to do it myself, the hiking, packing etc. I saved 13 years of PP's and I wanted to give myself an edge towards killing a monster mule deer. I wanted 180" plus.

Hiking in, 3 horses rode up on me on the trail. 3 locals. We talked for a while and here is what I found out. Every weekend for the whole damn summer these 3 fellows had rode horses into those mtns looking for a big buck. Every weekend they missed some family time, spent family money and worked hard to find THE buck. They found him too .... 2 of them. A huge non-typical and a huge typical. Right where my $500 guy told me they were.

I did NOTHING but pay $500 and here I was competing directly for those 2 bucks. I felt like dog schit to be honest with you and ashamed. Why? Becuase I took short cuts and hunting isn't suppose to be short cuts. Those 3 DESERVED either of those bucks, i didn't. I apologized to them, and hiked into an adjacent canyon. They were so grateful - because I was being a hunter and doing the right thing - I bet they never imagined that happening.
 
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