I started checking into them back in early Dec. and they are supposed to be really nice rifles. Especially for the price. All of the reviews said nothing but good things about them, and they were independent reviews. I have bought a ATR 100 for my step daughters boyfriend, and he says it is very nice and it is accurate also. The 4x4 is supposed to be a step up from that ...... and yes, I do plan of buying one of the 4x4's for myself, except it will be the Laminate / Marinecoat.