I had one and absolutely hated it. Its not only uncomfortable, but I found it hard to climb with. If you hunt alot of hardwood river bottoms, where the bottom of the trees have large trunks and taper down alot as you go up. The stand would lose its level very fast. I would put the stand on the tree in such an extreme angle that i would hardly be able to get in it. by the time I was 8-10 ft high, the front of the stand would be well past level and point downward. I would have to lose the cam lock and take up the slack, and go a little higher(not safe). I would have to do this at least twice and some times 3 times to get 20-22 ft. Also the belt was to pliable. if you try to climb one of those trees with small sprouts growing out of the tree or off vines growing up the side of the tree, it is the same for shag bark hickories too. The flexible belt would catch on them, and I couldn't pull the belt on thru them because it gives to much. I stand with a stiffer cable, I can blow right thru the crap if I need to. I personally wouldnt give much for one. I have owned alot of climbers, but have never been in one that would lose its level any faster. They wont go around a very large tree either, even with the longer belt. Hunt hill ground, these problems probably wouldnt be as bad, it would still be uncomfortable regardless