[earl blevins]

They want to work they just don’t want to Waller around in a muddy pond.

what shady2 said

 

[John Stiles]

Called 4 so far and can’t get anyone interested enough to do it for some reason. That’s why I asked for good alternatives that would be a permanent fix. I’m going to keep trying but it seems like nobody wants to work.

I’d go with the sheet rock idea, gotta be lots of that crap getting hauled to landfills, maybe hang around sites that are tearing down old buildings and houses!

 

[John Stiles]

They want to work they just don’t want to Waller around in a muddy pond.

You ever seen how stuck a dozer can get in a pond? Even one drained of all the water? Id say a drag-line would be better by far!

 

[earl blevins]

You ever seen how stuck a dozer can get in a pond

yea i had a d6 stuck one time i had to climb up to get off it. mud was up in floorboard haul a d7 in to get it out

 

[Rimneck]

If you could import some of that red fill dirt from the NW corner of the state and roll it in I think you’d have it.

 

[ARC Pond]

Any progress with the repair?

 

[44magnum]

UPDATE. I ordered 26,000# of bulk sodium bentonite out of Wyoming and had a contractor spread it while it has been low. I think we found the leak when a big truck sunk up in a soft spot in the lower part of the dam. It appears that it has compromised itself just above the rock bottom so it’s got a ton of clay mixed up in the hole alone. I’ll update when it’s full again. It’s going to be almost an acre of water if it will hold at the top most of the year. I’ve heard a lot of great things about using bentonite so I sure hope that it does the job here.

 

[smartweed]

Bentonite is the only way to go in my opinion. I have worked on several fish ponds with it... it will work.

 

[jcp]

UPDATE. I ordered 26,000# of bulk sodium bentonite out of Wyoming and had a contractor spread it while it has been low. I think we found the leak when a big truck sunk up in a soft spot in the lower part of the dam. It appears that it has compromised itself just above the rock bottom so it’s got a ton of clay mixed up in the hole alone. I’ll update when it’s full again. It’s going to be almost an acre of water if it will hold at the top most of the year. I’ve heard a lot of great things about using bentonite so I sure hope that it does the job here.

Dang I wish I would have known you needed bentonite , I had a bore contractor leave 30 pallets in my construction yard in Wyoming this spring and told me to give it away or sell it.
I finally had a guy come get it about a month ago.
It will seal a hole up and horses and cows will eat it like crazy. We did a big bore across the river here in February and I told the guys to fence off the entry and exit pits with barb wire , well they didn’t and we bought a cow that got down and was having a Buffett and couldn’t get out.
Did you know an old worn out cow on its last leg sells for 4500.00 ?

 

[44magnum]

Dang I wish I would have known you needed bentonite , I had a bore contractor leave 30 pallets in my construction yard in Wyoming this spring and told me to give it away or sell it.
I finally had a guy come get it about a month ago.
It will seal a hole up and horses and cows will eat it like crazy. We did a big bore across the river here in February and I told the guys to fence off the entry and exit pits with barb wire , well they didn’t and we bought a cow that got down and was having a Buffett and couldn’t get out.
Did you know an old worn out cow on its last leg sells for 4500.00 ?

Sorry that we missed each other. I’ve been putting out request about where to get some for over a year without anyone replying. I sure hope it gets the job done. It does look very promising as it is starting to bond with the original sandy clay mix pretty well just from the morning dew. That is some gooey stuff!

 

[RiceFarmer14]

UPDATE. I ordered 26,000# of bulk sodium bentonite out of Wyoming and had a contractor spread it while it has been low. I think we found the leak when a big truck sunk up in a soft spot in the lower part of the dam. It appears that it has compromised itself just above the rock bottom so it’s got a ton of clay mixed up in the hole alone. I’ll update when it’s full again. It’s going to be almost an acre of water if it will hold at the top most of the year. I’ve heard a lot of great things about using bentonite so I sure hope that it does the job here.

How much was the bentonite clay?

 

[44magnum]

How much was the bentonite clay?

$90 per ton + freight.

 

[RiceFarmer14]

You mind mentioning where you purchased it?

 

[44magnum]

I honestly don't have a name of the company. I just know it was Wyoming sourced. Myself and another shared the load, so he paid their invoice and I paid him back. I looked online and it appears that there are multiple sources.

 

[44magnum]

We got about 4” rain a couple of weeks ago and filled up to 3 feet. It’s holding and not going back down like the bathtub stopper was pulled. Looks like a good fix and I’m ready for some more rain. I feel blessed to be getting the pond back instead of just a mud hole every year. I appreciate all the conversations about your experiences.

 

[bullcreekboy]

I currently have a leaking pond. I had a contractor core the levee last year, but it did not stop the leak. The pond has silted in considerably over the years and I was ready to fill it in, but most of my family is sentimental about it. @44magnum how did you know how much bentonite to apply? Is there a lb/square foot ratio or something? My pond is probably 1/4 acre.

 

[44magnum]

I currently have a leaking pond. I had a contractor core the levee last year, but it did not stop the leak. The pond has silted in considerably over the years and I was ready to fill it in, but most of my family is sentimental about it. @44magnum how did you know how much bentonite to apply? Is there a lb/square foot ratio or something? My pond is probably 1/4 acre.

All that information and more was in my previous posts. Most clay/Sandy soil recommendations are about 2# per square foot.

 

[44magnum]

UPDATE. We got 5.5 inches of rain a couple of weeks back. It’s filled up my old pond to the spillway and backed it up into the shallows like it was originally designed. I’ve never seen it stay full during my lifetime until now. It appears there was an old washed out ravine the pond was built into possibly 70-80 years ago that has a loose/sandy material that was on top of the rock bottom and under the dam. The bentonite application has bonded it well and it’s stopped draining. I’m extremely blessed to see it has paid off to have almost an acre of usable pond. It’s about 9 feet deep so it shouldn’t ever go dry now starting at that level. Now fish stocking time! The wildlife seem to love it and it’s great to have a source of water for dry seasons and possibly fire suppression.

 

[HuntHigh]

UPDATE. We got 5.5 inches of rain a couple of weeks back. It’s filled up my old pond to the spillway and backed it up into the shallows like it was originally designed. I’ve never seen it stay full during my lifetime until now. It appears there was an old washed out ravine the pond was built into possibly 70-80 years ago that has a loose/sandy material that was on top of the rock bottom and under the dam. The bentonite application has bonded it well and it’s stopped draining. I’m extremely blessed to see it has paid off to have almost an acre of usable pond. It’s about 9 feet deep so it shouldn’t ever go dry now starting at that level. Now fish stocking time! The wildlife seem to love it and it’s great to have a source of water for dry seasons and possibly fire suppression.

Did it hold up well during our drought? I have one I would like to fix right now.

 

[Ange]

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