[JFFB]

I run a lot of cameras - and they do help us kill a big deer every other year or so. But there are countless decent bucks we pass, but would otherwise shoot if we didnt know the big buck was there.

Yep I agree with this.100%

 

[pirogue]

Kansas resident deer hunters dislike non residents. This is a result of more griping from local hunters s

Sounds like AR duck hunters.

 

[Chasegal88]

I’m not a big trail cam guy, have one set up on private because it’s fun to see what’s coming in to bait. I’ve ran some in public but not very often, never bothered me that others did it. BUT last year i was on a permit hunt and i swear every big rub or scrape had a camera hung over it, and to be honest, it just killed the mood. I place that once felt secluded and wild, it’s now like walking around with paparazzi. If they banned trail cam use on public it wouldn’t bother me one bit. But it’s not all about me so I’m conflicted.

 

[firehog]

Interesting points the commissioner made. Essentially has nothing to do about the actual game and everything to do about privacy and staking claim on an area. I suspect the Reg won’t stop some. What’s ironic to hear about privacy from a state standpoint is I’ve read stories where other states, a warden set up a cell cam on private property to watch the owner going in and out of his property. Owner took the camera and they raided his home and charged him with theft. I think there was a post about on here.

 

[SW Bowhunter]

I could just hear it.

Judge: You got a picture of that one where?

 

[Biggars]

The govt manages public lands for the people.
The people own it and pay for mgmt by the govt thru taxes.

What seems to happen more and more is the managers make rules or take actions that dont match majority of peoples stances.

And they do so knowing that over half the people couldnt care less about it. That is because people dont think about it as losing freedoms, its more about what the individuals opinion is or they dont care about that anyway so no big deal.
Then they step on your toes and it sucks but you realize most ppl dont think like you do and dang it just lost some freedom you cared about.

The land mgrs are not doing their job if they dont look at it the same way—- they need to realize they wre taking away freedoms with regulations and shouldnt be taken lightly.

Game cams—- not a huge loss to me and mine. Ive had fun with them. i would like for the kids and generations to come to have freedom to do the same if they want to.

 

[miketyson26]

I've personally watched 4 deer walk within a couple of feet of or behind the tree from a game camera. If they don't trigger it then what's the advantage? Most of the bucks I get pictures of become ghosts opening morning.

I've heard these same arguments over and over...

Running dogs isn't hunting, it's unfair, ban dogs.

Rifled barreled muzzleloaders are traditional, ban them.

Scopes on muzzleloaders aren't traditional, ban them.

Crossbows should only be used by the handicapped, ban them.

Yada Yada Yada. You don't like the way someone finds hunting success? Just ban it!!!

Miketyson26

 

[Hivernan]

The govt manages public lands for the people.
The people own it and pay for mgmt by the govt thru taxes.

What seems to happen more and more is the managers make rules or take actions that dont match majority of peoples stances.

And they do so knowing that over half the people couldnt care less about it. That is because people dont think about it as losing freedoms, its more about what the individuals opinion is or they dont care about that anyway so no big deal.
Then they step on your toes and it sucks but you realize most ppl dont think like you do and dang it just lost some freedom you cared about.

The land mgrs are not doing their job if they dont look at it the same way—- they need to realize they wre taking away freedoms with regulations and shouldnt be taken lightly.

Game cams—- not a huge loss to me and mine. Ive had fun with them. i would like for the kids and generations to come to have freedom to do the same if they want to.

Man, nothing like trail cams on public lands being the genesis of a slippery slope argument.

 

[pirogue]

Some states may ban for different reasons, and IDK what was the main trigger for Kansas, but I do know what was a big factor in AZ’s decision. The majority of the state hunting hunting is on public in AZ, and water catchments are spread throughout the state. It was nothing to see 8, 10, or more on a single catchment. And I’m not talking a mile or two off the highway. The last year they were legal, I was hunting a catchment in the renowned for mule deer, AZ Strip, 38 miles from the nearest paved road. I had a blind on a drinker (August bow hunt) and there were probably 8 or 9 cameras on it. I met several outfitters who owned some of the cameras. The majority of them came in midday to check, and some even asked me if I minded them checking. But one rude, inconsiderate outfitter’s guide drove right up to the camera every morning during hunting prime time(0800 to 0815). He drove by my truck(parked a quarter mile away), so he knew someone was there, plus he saw my blind. Never did he look my direction, ask if I cared, or acknowledged that I was there. This is the type behavior that led to so many complaints to the commission, that was probably the main reason for banning.

 

[headhunter_60]

I’d like to see cell cameras banned across the board.
There are very very few deer that you can’t kill with bait and a cell camera.

What I put on my private land is my business. I like to see what comes through including people trespassing. I have no issues with them being prohibited on public land or being legal. They should have to be moved and treated like deer stands.

 

[archeryman.501]

I can walk you to a dozen stands on public that have not been moved in a long time.

 

[gearhead]

I figure they want to ban them so Bigfoot can easily roam public land without being photographed.