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I love cameras and no they do not help me kill any more deer than before trial cameras became a thing. I killed one deer this year but took a lot of pictures of deer. For those that said a bait pile and cell camera and you can kill whatever you want, Maybe I'm missing something here, cause I had several shooter bucks that I never was able to connect with. It happens every year matter of fact, but for those that believe that, I'm serious if that's the case I'm missing something, which is possible. But my experience is they show me what's in the area, they show me a small amount of square footage in front of that camera and that's it. I've had mature bucks get spooked even from infrared cameras and not show back up in that particular spot so you do run the risk of spooking a good buck. To me, this issue of banning cameras leads to areas that might touch other areas. For example, someone started this in some state I guess out west on watering holes. So I assume the state had tag limits per hunter, so who cares if they knew exactly when an animal showed up they can only kill their limit. Then other states seem to want to place these types of regulations, and they also have kill limits. No one is overkilling their limit. So what does it matter? Maybe some liberal game commissioner says rifles make killing too easy, so let's ban rifles, can't have powerful scopes, oh wait crossbows are not fair. You see how this goes. Whether you agree or not on cameras, this could lead down the road to something maybe you might use. Banning on the private ground most likely would push a lawsuit. I have the complete right to take pictures of anything I want on my personal ground that I bought and pay taxes on. I have several cameras set not for the game but for trespassers and thieves. I could see any good lawyer arguing if a government agency can ban cameras out in the wild on private ground, but they can place cameras along highways and all around their buildings for security and keep track of American citizens, who are they to tell citizens they can't also place cameras to watch animals or watch their property for security. And to take it further if I can't take pictures of animals with remote cameras, then I want private businesses like Walmart to take down their cameras as well, what right do they have to video me without my consent? I guess we're afraid we might offend the deer but we'll accept private businesses videoing every angle picking your nose walking into Walmart. The bottom line is they have a right to protect their property, you accept that going on their property and thus I have that same right to use whatever camera or video to capture whatever is on my property too.
 

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Few elected officials seem to vote for freedom anymore. Its sick. They want control and the peasants to comply whether it makes sense or fits our Constitution or not. I agree with whoever above said you may not care a out this but you will when they step on your toes.

Freedom is under attack from within or so it seems sometimes.
 

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I love cameras and no they do not help me kill any more deer than before trial cameras became a thing. I killed one deer this year but took a lot of pictures of deer. For those that said a bait pile and cell camera and you can kill whatever you want, Maybe I'm missing something here, cause I had several shooter bucks that I never was able to connect with. It happens every year matter of fact, but for those that believe that, I'm serious if that's the case I'm missing something, which is possible. But my experience is they show me what's in the area, they show me a small amount of square footage in front of that camera and that's it. I've had mature bucks get spooked even from infrared cameras and not show back up in that particular spot so you do run the risk of spooking a good buck. To me, this issue of banning cameras leads to areas that might touch other areas. For example, someone started this in some state I guess out west on watering holes. So I assume the state had tag limits per hunter, so who cares if they knew exactly when an animal showed up they can only kill their limit. Then other states seem to want to place these types of regulations, and they also have kill limits. No one is overkilling their limit. So what does it matter? Maybe some liberal game commissioner says rifles make killing too easy, so let's ban rifles, can't have powerful scopes, oh wait crossbows are not fair. You see how this goes. Whether you agree or not on cameras, this could lead down the road to something maybe you might use. Banning on the private ground most likely would push a lawsuit. I have the complete right to take pictures of anything I want on my personal ground that I bought and pay taxes on. I have several cameras set not for the game but for trespassers and thieves. I could see any good lawyer arguing if a government agency can ban cameras out in the wild on private ground, but they can place cameras along highways and all around their buildings for security and keep track of American citizens, who are they to tell citizens they can't also place cameras to watch animals or watch their property for security. And to take it further if I can't take pictures of animals with remote cameras, then I want private businesses like Walmart to take down their cameras as well, what right do they have to video me without my consent? I guess we're afraid we might offend the deer but we'll accept private businesses videoing every angle picking your nose walking into Walmart. The bottom line is they have a right to protect their property, you accept that going on their property and thus I have that same right to use whatever camera or video to capture whatever is on my property too.
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Few elected officials seem to vote for freedom anymore. Its sick. They want control and the peasants to comply whether it makes sense or fits our Constitution or not. I agree with whoever above said you may not care a out this but you will when they step on your toes.

Freedom is under attack from within or so it seems sometimes.
My bad I forgot the right to use trail cams on public lands was a core tenet of the Constitution. Hold on does the Constitution even discuss public lands?
 

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Few elected officials seem to vote for freedom anymore. Its sick. They want control and the peasants to comply whether it makes sense or fits our Constitution or not. I agree with whoever above said you may not care a out this but you will when they step on your toes.

Freedom is under attack from within or so it seems sometimes.
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Kansas resident deer hunters dislike non residents. Non residents have to draw to deer hunt private, state public, and even federal owned property. This is a result of more griping from local hunters about wiha. They are also pushing to ban all baiting and drastically cut non resident tag #s
 

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What's the difference?
With a cell cam a “hunter” can run several in an area and wait for a picture to be sent to them real time about game that is present. It would be a very unethical tactic for turkey hunting in an area. At least with a normal camera you still have to put boots on the ground in multiple areas to find game.
 
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