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look remarkably similar to the Kel-Tec P-3AT??

I looked at both exploded views, and don't see a nickle's worth of difference between them. Is Kel-Tec private labeling this for Ruger? If so, I'm very disappointed in Ruger......I was really expecting a new, exciting carry gun, not a rehash.

I'm not taking a thing away from Kel-Tec, they are great firearms. I just bought my wife a .32 as a carry gun. Just thought that Ruger should have come up with something a little "above and beyond" what is already out there (especially for the difference in price).

Of course, this is JMHO.............:wink:
 

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look remarkably similar to the Kel-Tec P-3AT??

I looked at both exploded views, and don't see a nickle's worth of difference between them. Is Kel-Tec private labeling this for Ruger? If so, I'm very disappointed in Ruger......I was really expecting a new, exciting carry gun, not a rehash.

I'm not taking a thing away from Kel-Tec, they are great firearms. I just bought my wife a .32 as a carry gun. Just thought that Ruger should have come up with something a little "above and beyond" what is already out there (especially for the difference in price).

Of course, this is JMHO.............:wink:
I was thinking the same thing. Usually its another company copying Ruger, not the other way 'round. Given the choice between the Ruger and the KT, I'm more inclined to buy the KT at this point!
 

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My wife bought a Smith & Wesson Sigma in .40 s&w the other day and for the price it is a pretty nice gun. After breaking it down it is totally identical to my Glock with the exception of the two stage trigger to mimic the Glock. Everybody seems to me to base everything these days on Glock but as for me i will hang with the Glock Perfection.
 

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My wife bought a Smith & Wesson Sigma in .40 s&w the other day and for the price it is a pretty nice gun. After breaking it down it is totally identical to my Glock with the exception of the two stage trigger to mimic the Glock. Everybody seems to me to base everything these days on Glock but as for me i will hang with the Glock Perfection.
Met a lady at the range couple of weekends ago. She was shooting a Glock .40 mid-size, and was doing very well with it. Several of us gathered round to compare notes, and all of us had glocks, and all shot well with them...If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I've shot a lot of polymer frame pistols, I have Glock, Steyr, KT and all shoot well. But lets face it, the glock seems to have fewer issues, and shoots as good as any, and better than most. I guess I'll always be trying whatever is new, but glock has the product and the reputation right now that is very hard to beat.
 

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My wife bought a Smith & Wesson Sigma in .40 s&w the other day and for the price it is a pretty nice gun. After breaking it down it is totally identical to my Glock with the exception of the two stage trigger to mimic the Glock. Everybody seems to me to base everything these days on Glock but as for me i will hang with the Glock Perfection.
Several years ago S&W ended up having to pay royalties to Glock over this issue. Took a court battle, but it happened.

So, yeah, you could say they are very similar!

After that ordeal I am supremely confident that the Ruger is either different enough from the KT or that Ruger worked something out with KT from the get go. I just can't imagine them making the same error that cost S&W a ton of money.
 

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After that ordeal I am supremely confident that the Ruger is either different enough from the KT or that Ruger worked something out with KT from the get go. I just can't imagine them making the same error that cost S&W a ton of money.

It's been said that Ruger's Legal department has never lost a case over product liablility or patent infringement. Now that Bill's been dead for several years, I wonder it that's still true?
 

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I have seen the pics of the Ruger, but not seen one in person. My P3AT does just fine and I have no reason to change. It rides in my front pocket all the time, you never even notice it there.

 

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What I understand Kel Tek never had a patent for their pistols so Ruger just took a good idae and ran with it. I have had a P32 for years and carried it all the time in my front pocket and when my gun shop got the 2nd LCP in, they called me. Yes it's close to a Kel Tek but has much fit and finish. It shoots to point of aim at 15'-20' with almost any ammo, I've run 200 rounds so far with out failure.
 
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