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Is it ok to carry the gun for a young turkey hunter while walking in the woods during the youth season? Lacking experience, for saftey reasons should they be helped in certain aspects of the hunt?
 

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Is it ok to carry the gun for a young turkey hunter while walking in the woods during the youth season? Lacking experience, for saftey reasons should they be helped in certain aspects of the hunt?
Yes!
Some on this board don't realize that the youth hunts are about our hunting future.

We should make it an enjoyable experience for the youth. I carry the gun and teach safe gun-handling along the way. Whe we get set up, I hand over the gun and let her load it. (and shoot it)

If you don't have a youth of your own, borrow one and take them hunting!
 

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As long as you are not the one that pulls the trigger you are OK. The first bird my son killed 12 years ago when he was 7, he was sitting between my legs, had the gun barrel rested on my knee & the butt of the gun was sitting against my sholder. When the bird appeared I just moved the gun down to his shoulder, left it on my knee, he aimed it & pulled the trigger. That was many birds ago & now he guides this Old Man alot of the time! How things change!!!!!:smack:

Like it was said before, these youth days given are to be used to give the kids a "Good Taste" in their mouths about hunting & whatever can be done to make it enjoyable for them needs to be done to make it that way!

And Selfbow, I will give you a :thumb: :thumb: for that statement:

If you don't have a kid of your own, Borrow One!!!

If you get a kid hooked on hunt'n & fish'n at an early age, maybe they want get hooked on something else at a latter time!
 

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Only thing that bothers me about the youth hunt, its like welfare, theres a lot of abuse that goes on in order for the right ones to get it. Besides that, its all positive!
 

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Only thing that bothers me about the youth hunt, its like welfare, theres a lot of abuse that goes on in order for the right ones to get it. Besides that, its all positive!
I don't know of ANYONE who abuses the youth hunt.

I'm sure that it does happen, but ALL of the kids that I know have a great time and do it LEGALLY. The people doing it right far outweigh the few who cheat.

If you know that many people who are abusing the system you need to turn them in or pick new friends.
 

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The game and fish must think there is a lot of abuse, to enact laws that require young hunters to possibly demonstrate the ability to fire the weapon on their own accord, in order to deviate from abuse. :smack:
 

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As long as you are not the one that pulls the trigger you are OK. The first bird my son killed 12 years ago when he was 7, he was sitting between my legs, had the gun barrel rested on my knee & the butt of the gun was sitting against my sholder. When the bird appeared I just moved the gun down to his shoulder, left it on my knee, he aimed it & pulled the trigger. That was many birds ago & now he guides this Old Man alot of the time! How things change!!!!!:smack:

Like it was said before, these youth days given are to be used to give the kids a "Good Taste" in their mouths about hunting & whatever can be done to make it enjoyable for them needs to be done to make it that way!

And Selfbow, I will give you a :thumb: :thumb: for that statement:

If you don't have a kid of your own, Borrow One!!!

If you get a kid hooked on hunt'n & fish'n at an early age, maybe they want get hooked on something else at a latter time!
EXACTLY!!!!!:thumb:
 

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I will say this once....let your kid experience the full thrill of the hunt...just don't give him the shell[single shot] till you have him set up and staionary...never do it any other way...it is about the futute of hunting; a hunting accident is counter productive!:wink:
 

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The way I look at it; is if there is any question what so ever about the kid not being able to carry the gun in a comfortable/safe position then the adult should carry the gun.

That's what were there for to help the kid to the best of our ability with everything except pulling the trigger.
 

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In the past, I've introduced alot of kids to deer and turkey hunting. After 15 yrs of taking kids, i looked back to see what had been accomplished. Not much!
Problem is the kids are ready to roll with excitement, the hunt is good, you teach them well and once out of my hands the parent never took it any farther.
I take a different approach now. I try to find a kid with a parent that is interested. I take both. I teach both. I try to find ways to get the parent involved (afterall the parent will be supporting the habit financially)
This past yr, I took a dad and son on a deer hunt. Dad could not afford a license, but would do anything for his son. The dad never hunted but wasn't against it. The dad had a camcorder and I suggested he tag along and film. Both were excited.
The first morning was unevetful. That afternoon we got in a stand and waited just a few minutes when a 5pt and 2 doe came into view (we were in MO.) The dad got the camera rolling - the kid was lining up the shot and both were breathing hard and shaking bad. Boom! Deer down and the dad handed me the camera and said finish the filming I'm going with my son to his deer. The race was on, both excited laughing and high fiving all the way.

A few weeks later the dad called and asked me to help him find a small piece of land to buy. He said he didn't know if he would take up hunting but wanted a place to take his son and he wanted to film each and every hunt.
They got a great deal on 20 acres. They have built numerous brush piles for rabbits and quail. I think they have 3 turkey blinds built for the upcoming season. I went with them to their place one day and the excitement they have when the car stops is unbeliveable. You would think they have a 10000 acre ranch. All the result of 1 pull of the trigger and a great supportive parent. I may not expose as many kids to the sport as I once did but I want those exposed to be in it for life.
 

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I have a little boy that can't wait to tag along with me. I can't wait till he is old enough. I've been taking cousins for as long as I can remember and I guess I'm just crazy but I think I'm more excited than they are when the shot goes off. I love the hunt no matter who has the gun.
 

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On the question of who totes the gun...

If it were me, I would only tote it inside a case...just to be on the safe side.

Some WO might/would frown on an adult with a loaded gun when he is not legally entitled to have it "in his possession".
 

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I don't know of ANYONE who abuses the youth hunt.

I'm sure that it does happen, but ALL of the kids that I know have a great time and do it LEGALLY. The people doing it right far outweigh the few who cheat.

If you know that many people who are abusing the system you need to turn them in or pick new friends.
If last post is correct,do you recommend I turn you in?
 

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Letting the youngster carry the unloaded {single barrel} shotgun, walking into your stand setup before daylight gives him/her valuable experience carrying a firearm and walking very carefully at the same time....it also lets you observe how the youngster handles it and a chance to correct any mistakes. One day the youngster you introduce to turkey hunting will not need you anymore, and will be the product of his counsel. Keep the ammo, and when you are set up, give the shell to the youngster and watch while he/she loads. Do all the things your dad did with you, but most important is safety! I'll be taking my 8year old daughter, and a .410 single barrel. And if a turkey gets shot(at) it will be by Iris and not me. Now as far as calling.....I may be guilty of that part!:wink:
 

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In the past, I've introduced alot of kids to deer and turkey hunting. After 15 yrs of taking kids, i looked back to see what had been accomplished. Not much!
Problem is the kids are ready to roll with excitement, the hunt is good, you teach them well and once out of my hands the parent never took it any farther.
I take a different approach now. I try to find a kid with a parent that is interested. I take both. I teach both. I try to find ways to get the parent involved (afterall the parent will be supporting the habit financially)
This past yr, I took a dad and son on a deer hunt. Dad could not afford a license, but would do anything for his son. The dad never hunted but wasn't against it. The dad had a camcorder and I suggested he tag along and film. Both were excited.
The first morning was unevetful. That afternoon we got in a stand and waited just a few minutes when a 5pt and 2 doe came into view (we were in MO.) The dad got the camera rolling - the kid was lining up the shot and both were breathing hard and shaking bad. Boom! Deer down and the dad handed me the camera and said finish the filming I'm going with my son to his deer. The race was on, both excited laughing and high fiving all the way.

A few weeks later the dad called and asked me to help him find a small piece of land to buy. He said he didn't know if he would take up hunting but wanted a place to take his son and he wanted to film each and every hunt.
They got a great deal on 20 acres. They have built numerous brush piles for rabbits and quail. I think they have 3 turkey blinds built for the upcoming season. I went with them to their place one day and the excitement they have when the car stops is unbeliveable. You would think they have a 10000 acre ranch. All the result of 1 pull of the trigger and a great supportive parent. I may not expose as many kids to the sport as I once did but I want those exposed to be in it for life.
He couldn't afford a hunting license, but he owned a camcorder and bought 20 acres :confused:
 

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I understand that its not legal for an adult to possess a firearm in the turkey woods during a youth hunt, The child must also be totally in possession of firearm while shooting at turkey. Lets please set good legal examples for our kids, and help erase doubt in other peoples minds when they see an adult carrying a gun during youth season. A warden told me that to many three year olds have been checking turkeys and deer. To insinuate that a child only needs to be able to pull the trigger to legally harvest game is wrong. There is so much more to hunting than just shooting the game and checking a turkey. Lets don't start our kids off fudging on laws at an early age.
 

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I understand that its not legal for an adult to possess a firearm in the turkey woods during a youth hunt, The child must also be totally in possession of firearm while shooting at turkey. Lets please set good legal examples for our kids, and help erase doubt in other peoples minds when they see an adult carrying a gun during youth season. A warden told me that to many three year olds have been checking turkeys and deer. To insinuate that a child only needs to be able to pull the trigger to legally harvest game is wrong. There is so much more to hunting than just shooting the game and checking a turkey. Lets don't start our kids off fudging on laws at an early age.
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I understand that its not legal for an adult to possess a firearm in the turkey woods during a youth hunt, The child must also be totally in possession of firearm while shooting at turkey. Lets please set good legal examples for our kids, and help erase doubt in other peoples minds when they see an adult carrying a gun during youth season. A warden told me that to many three year olds have been checking turkeys and deer. To insinuate that a child only needs to be able to pull the trigger to legally harvest game is wrong. There is so much more to hunting than just shooting the game and checking a turkey. Lets don't start our kids off fudging on laws at an early age.
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You started this thread to pick a fight......You found it.

My daughter and I hunt in some rough country so if carrying her gun (unloaded) will help her enjoy the hunt, then I'm going to do it.

There will be six of us Dads and our kids camped at Sylamore on the youth hunt. Most of us will carry the guns most of the day for our kids. If you would like to stop by and discus hunting ethics with us I can provide our camp location.:cool:

You will probably be out with your deer hounds running pregnant doe deer instead of taking a kid hunting so I don't expect you to come by.:biggrin:

Impose YOUR ethics somewhere else.
 
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