Duplex loads

Discussion in 'Turkey Hunting' started by factory909, Jan 2, 2008.

  1. factory909

    factory909 Well-Known Member

    How come duplex loads are prohibited for turkey hunting?
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  2. i am not sure that duplex loads themselves are whats prohibited, but i think you can't have them if they contain shot that is too big or small.......just my take.
     

  3. dunnhead

    dunnhead Well-Known Member

    Yep, duplex loads are legal. You can't have any shot larger than #2 whether duplex or not.
     
  4. factory909

    factory909 Well-Known Member

    Ok, thank you for clearing that up.
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  5. Mr. Chitlin

    Mr. Chitlin Administrator

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    I thought it was #2 or larger.
     
  6. JR1

    JR1 Well-Known Member

    You would have been right until a year or two ago. They reinstated that #2 was legal for turkeys in AR. Scares the bejeebers out of me knowing that someone might shoot me with those! A load of #4's would be bad enough.

    Never did hear, or there never was proffered a reason for the change.
     
  7. archer

    archer Well-Known Member

    It allows those of us who prefer to take body shots of turkeys the oppurtunity. You should see a bird drop when hit with a load of #2 hevi-shot. But yes I agree it can be more dangerous. Works great on predators out to about 50 yards also.
     
  8. Mr. Chitlin

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    I haven't turkey hunted in years, so I didn't know that. I use 3.5" #5's anyway.
     
  9. JR1

    JR1 Well-Known Member

    I promise not to start a fight, but I have to ask, why would you choose to body shoot them?

    Personally I find it wastes a lot of great meat, that they stand a better chance of getting away (guess #2 might be the answer to that), and that it is just a lot more challenging and fun to shoot them in that bright red and white target God gave them.
     
  10. Mr. Chitlin

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    My son and I use 3" Mag #2 lead on coyotes in the brush. It does a number on 'em!!
     
  11. dunnhead

    dunnhead Well-Known Member

    Ooops, you're right. I meant to type that, but my fingers don't listen sometimes :smack:
     
  12. JR1

    JR1 Well-Known Member

    Here's the quote from the AG&F website:
    General Regulations

    Only shotguns (10 gauge and smaller) and archery equipment (including crossbows) are legal for turkey hunting. The use of modern rifles or pistols; muzzleloading rifles or pistols; shotguns larger than 10 gauge; or shot larger than No. 2 common shot including duplex loads, is prohibited.


    You CAN use #2 shot in duplex loads or otherwise.
     
  13. browning_gold_12

    browning_gold_12 Moderator<br>Deer Hunting<br>Trail Cameras<br>'07

    not trying to fight back either, but we shoot ducks and geese with 2's, bb's and bbb's, and the wasted meat doesnt seem to really be a factor there. i dont see it really being a problem on a bird as big as a turkey. JMO:confused: BG12
     
  14. JR1

    JR1 Well-Known Member

    I think the difference would be that the distances and chokes you use would put fewer pellets into the birds. Turkey hunting, from my perspective, is about tight chokes and putting as many pellets on target as possible.

    Of course, I'm coming at it from someone that is against body shooting birds so my perspective is skewed. I would suppose that someone doing that could conceivably shoot a choke that wasn't as tight therefore not putting nearly as many pellets into the body.

    I know what I've seen a load of #5's do at 35 yds when a buddy shot one low a couple years ago. We threw away one side of the breast meat and picked pellts out of the other. I can only imagine #2s would be worse. Course I guess one would say that there are fewer of them. Then I would say that they create a bigger wound channel thus overcoming that difference in numbers. And then they could say.....well, you get the idea.

    I seriously wasn't trying to stir the pot, I was just curious as to why someone would want to shoot a turkey in the body knowing that it would cause meat loss. Just trying to learn...

    I will say, however, that I am against #2's being legal for turkey hunting. For the sole reason that they are much more dangerous in shooting incidints. I'm not trying to make it illegal to body shoot a turkey.
     
  15. archer

    archer Well-Known Member

    I've hit turkeys dead to rights with #5's, #6's and had them not receive lethal hits. I've had turkeys suddenly find new life as I was walking up on them. Talk about frustating:smack: I've patterned my loads and everything but sometimes you can have holes in the pattern. Also people who don't have a super full choke turkey gun sometimes find this more effective. A good load of #4's works well also, just not as far. I don't see it wasting more meat, the holes are large but spaced apart. I aim for the base of the neck, and haven't had a turkey even twitch since I switched.
     
  16. Manybeards

    Manybeards Premium Member<br>2009 Turkey Contest Winner<br>20

    I've always hunted with #6's and I don't have any problem killing them. Heck I've killed several turkeys with a 20 guage with #6's when I was a young boy.
     
  17. John Stiles

    John Stiles Ultimate Member 2007 Team Turkey Contest Winner

    I'm basicly a #6 turkey hunter[dyed in the wool] except when I take up hunting a bird that's been shat at too many times[won't come into range]....then I switch to #5s! Anybody that is shooting duplex loads that have #2s in them has very little regard for[safety] other hunters, not to mention law. TJMHO~john
     
  18. dunnhead

    dunnhead Well-Known Member

    That's what I was saying... #2 is legal.
     
  19. John Stiles

    John Stiles Ultimate Member 2007 Team Turkey Contest Winner

    If someone peppers ya with #2s........you will understand why AGFC banned them from turkey hunting in the first place. Ask a goose hunter why they would use #2s. In my opinion, AGFC made a big blunder if they lifted that ban!!
     
  20. Hobbshunter

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    Where would you buy #2 shot any how?