Did you see the new "muzzleloader" ad for Lousianna?

2dogs said:

Well I guess it's a matter of time before the ol' muzzleloader is put to rest....

I got this out of my Arkansas Sportsman magazine.


"H&R Single-Shot Rifles. Consider this the ulimate speedloader. Thanks to a recent change in Louisiana's legislation, singlepshot rifles in .38 cal and larger are now legal in primitive weapons season. And there is no better choice than the H&R Handi-Rifle. blah, blah, blah."

It is on page 50. I hate to see it happen.

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Yeah, I agree with you. I saw where Mississippi was doing the same thing. But then again, I have used my muzzleloader before during modern gun season. One of my favorite hunts was made using it on opening day, took a real nice 8 point that day, made a heckuva shot at about 80-90 yards.

I hate to see this happen as well. It seems like so many people are going to the TC Encore and that is one heck of a rifle. With muzzleloaders you're kind of limited to your yardage, where as with that Encore you can make shots out to a few hundred yards. It just don't seem right. :head:

I ain't quite getting it either.
For something that was once intended to be a primitive weapon gun season, things sure aren't very primitive anymore.

sprtsmn001 said:

I hate to see this happen as well. It seems like so many people are going to the TC Encore and that is one heck of a rifle. With muzzleloaders you're kind of limited to your yardage, where as with that Encore you can make shots out to a few hundred yards. It just don't seem right. :head:

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Not necessarily...with these new aero-tipped sabotless bullets, there's no reason a 200yd shot couldn't become a reality. Knowing how to care for a muzzle-loading rifle, and keeping it clean, is what hangs most ML hunters up! They usually wind up throwing away a chunk of rust about every couple years...but they can use the same NE single barrel more often, and still not worry about running an oily patch through the barrel. As a human race, we are getting very lazy!:up:

I believe the intention is for them to use black powder cartridges.

Arkie_3_fan said:

I ain't quite getting it either.
For something that was once intended to be a primitive weapon gun season, things sure aren't very primitive anymore.

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It seems that the intent nowadays is not to hunt with a primitive weapon but rather to hunt more and shoot more game.
That's all I'll say here!
Tommy

bayman1975 said:

I believe the intention is for them to use black powder cartridges.

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You're right. The 45-70 will probably become more popular. Other than the ability to load it faster there is really no advantage to some of the inlines available now.

M1Tommy said:

It seems that the intent nowadays is not to hunt with a primitive weapon but rather to hunt more and shoot more game.
That's all I'll say here!
Tommy

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You are right too, but there will still be limits. It is probably an effort to take more deer and also attract more hunters.

longbow hunter said:

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You are right too, but there will still be limits. It is probably an effort to take more deer and also attract more hunters.

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You're correct there. I posted while in a bit of a snit myself (related to other items entirely), and hope that folks don't take it as elitist sounding. It likely did come across as such.

I don't want to denigrate folks who shoot modern ML arms. They aren't my 'thing' but then we're all cut a bit different!

There likely is a need for more deer to be taken, and certainly is a need for more folks to be hunting!

I've heard that BP cartridge rifles are really an 'art', though!

Tommy

We discussed this a while back...

http://arkansashunting.net/showthread.php?t=36609&highlight=45%2F70

I thought we already drug this through the mud a time or two I see Mr Chitlin already found the link....

bayman1975 said:

I believe the intention is for them to use black powder cartridges.

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I agree with Bayman,No modern cartridges.Better read the fine print on this one.

Without going back and looking, it seems like it had to be at least 38 caliber and a rifle with an external hammer like the H&R rifles, and I think the Encore rifles were specifically excluded from being legal. Don't hold me to any of that though.

I still remember taking my first black powder deer with my old TC 45 caliber Hawken. That was a thrill. That was also before blaze orange requirements. While sitting out in the woods on the ground with my hawken wearing jeans and a flannel shirt I felt a special kinship with our ancestors. Pretty neat feeling. Now it is all about technology and gadgets but to each his own. I also gave in and purchased one of the CVA inlines. I might just get the old smokepole out again this fall.