Deer Population in Arkansas

Discussion in 'Deer Hunting' started by OneEye, Nov 24, 2012.

  1. OneEye

    OneEye Well-Known Member

    What's your opinion of the population of the deer heard in Arkansas. From what I have witnessed, the population has been on a steady decline. I have numerous private land spots that I could almost unfailingly expect to see approximately 30 does from on any given afternoon 15 years ago.Today, seeing 4 deer in a hunt from those same stands is considered to be pretty good. The public land close to my house has gone through an identical decline. It seems to me that the deer population really declined in the past 20 years, but for some reason we keep getting more and more tags to fill and more and more encouragement to "manage" does. What are your thoughts on this topic?
  2. mlriggs12

    mlriggs12 Well-Known Member

  3. tmeredith

    tmeredith Platinum Member Redneck Slum Lord

    My thoughts are that the agfc is under alot of pressure from insurance companies to thin the herd to cut down on deer car collisions. They believe since these collisions seem to be increasing that it must mean we have more deer now than 15 or 20 years ago. They don't consider that there are more cars on the highways and todays driver has way more distractions coming from inside the car than any tiime in history. They also fail to consider the lack of mowing highway rights of way due to the high fuel costs. SO.......The simple fix is to keep fooling the hunters into believing our deer population is "exploding" and allow us hunters to kill all the deer. Hunters love the long seasons and liberal bag limits as much as a fat kid loves gummy worms. Until they wake up and say enough is enough I don't look for our deer numbers to improve.
  4. tracytqrc

    tracytqrc Well-Known Member

    About 30 years ago we lived on 200 acres that is about 6 miles from my place now. We lived on that place for about 3 years and as I recall, seeing a deer was a very rare occasion. Today most of the surrounding that 200 is deer leases, and if you drive that road at night you better be watching for suicidel deer, and on my 14 acres, I have seen up to 16 does in one group.

    Maybe I just was'nt a decent hunter 30 years ago.:shrug:
  5. brushcreek

    brushcreek Well-Known Member Supporting Member

    I'd have to disagree about my area, we see same or more deer and beter quality.
  6. tmeredith

    tmeredith Platinum Member Redneck Slum Lord

    I was pretty much in the same boat 30 to 35 years ago in my neck of the woods. Then the agfc closed all gun seasons in nea for several years and the deer numbers started to come back. They were really making a comeback in the mid ninties then the agfc started increasing the gun seasons and then opened doe firearms season and now our numbers are headind down again. I'm afraid we'll be back to those days from 30 to 35 years ago if they don't make some changes soon. I also believe much more of the state than just extreme nea will see that kind of hunting this go 'round. Our deer herd can't keep up with this pressure forever.
  7. UCNE

    UCNE Well-Known Member

    Correct and the deer heard is getting smaller......the ice storms here reduced them allot.......:banghead:
  8. mikebri

    mikebri Well-Known Member

    More deer, less quality because alot less hardwoods. Have to manage them better because bigger bucks aren't as plentiful.
  9. chevyduckhunt

    chevyduckhunt Well-Known Member

    Out at my grandfathers place we are just now starting to see deer use the area. My dad and them moved out there in around 1970 and rarely ever seen a deer and when the did it was at dark.
  10. sam

    sam Grand Member<br>2007 Photo Contest Winner<br>

    My Grandpaw farmed, logged and hunted and fished his whole life, 86 years, in this area. He died in 1977 and never saw a wild deer without traveling several hours from home until the early 1970's and it was still a rare thing. I could tag out every year shooting off the front porch, if I wanted to.
  11. bkknupp

    bkknupp Well-Known Member

    I hunted from 6am till 12noon this morn. I saw 17 doe and 4 bucks. That is not a good buck to doe ratio. Big herd numbers does not always mean a healthy herd. I think across the board, the general deer herd in Arkansas is in good shape. I am 34 yrs old , and I have been hunting since I was 4. I think I have a better chance to harvest a trophy buck than ever before. From what ive seen in and around Prairie county there is no shortage of doe either.
  12. shotgun wg

    shotgun wg Well-Known Member

    In the areas I grew up hunting in the seark delta u could go for a week or more and not see a deer during season. Now some 25 years later I have hunted the same spots and if u don't see 8 or 10 deer a day it's a bad day. This to me is far better population than 25 years ago. The way I understand there were good numbers in these areas during the early 60's the late seventies the numbers had taken drastic hits due to the amount of ground that was cleared for farming. Are the numbers as high as they were in the 50's or 60's I don't know but doubt it. Are the numbers here better than the mid 80's thru the early 90's. yes by far.
  13. bdgarne

    bdgarne Well-Known Member

    This is exactly how it is in my part of the state. Quality and numbers from even 10 years ago is astoundingly better
  14. lastchance

    lastchance Active Member

    Our deer numbers in northern Cross county and southern Poinsett county are much better than ever in my lifetime. Adequate number of bucks, but doe to buck ratio is still extremely high.
  15. fanatichunter

    fanatichunter Well-Known Member

    It depends on area. It's hard to tell just by county or zone. Hunting in Faulkner county on our farm 15 years ago was amazing now it literally sucks. To many poachers and too many deer being killed. I agree with bag limits in southarkansas and other areas, but in zone 8-8a they need to rethink. Our population is declining majorly. I used to see 15-30 deer 10 years ago everytime I went hunting now I can go weeks and might see 3. I used to be able to see 2-3 shooters in a day now I have to hunt 60+ days to shoot a decent buck. It's different for every part of state I guess.
  16. thompson

    thompson Well-Known Member

    I have to agree. You'll get a lot of different opinions across the state. Here in south AR, it's been on a big decline overall. We took a very hard hit last year for some reason in this area where I hunt and it seems to be a little better this year but not a lot. There again, with everyone having 6 tags what can you expect.. In my opinion, it comes down to do you want to keep deer to feed your family of horns on the wall. I'll take the first option myself.
  17. Around here we see ten bucks for every doe and thats always at night, I'm begining to think we need some night hunters so we will start to see deer in the daytime.
  18. Sounds like us trying to hunt one of our farms.... man those are some night loving deer. Plenty to eat and plenty of cover.
  19. tmeredith

    tmeredith Platinum Member Redneck Slum Lord

    Why can't we have both? I don't buy this idea that you can't have quantity AND quality. It depends on carrying capacity, and I believe most of the state is far below carrying capacity and I know for sure nea is far, far below carrying capacity. We could easily increase our numbers and with some regs to protect our bucks such as a shorter gun season and a 1 buck firearm limit we'd have good numbers of big bucks as well. Too many folks think it has to be feast or famine when there's really a happy medium in between.
  20. It is good to see you are referring to your area...NEA.....and I have been at the farm since modern gun started in my little part of zone 12. Today....maybe 4 shots this afternoon and a few more this morning. Very few shots and actually very little traffic.....almost none on the rural county road I am on. Seeing deer.......didn't hunt this morning but was outside. Took a guy that is 33 years old and never killed a deer this afternoon....saw 3 right at dark. He will have to get it tomorrow. Had 9 around me yesterday at dark...starting to feed on other things besides acorns. One member killed a doe this morning.....saw 5 before shooting that one. He was waiting on a very large 6 point He said but decided since He has been hunting with a firearm for two weeks and well....hasn't killed one yet with the long season.
    But not every gun hunter is shooting everything they see........and I am thinking and hoping the weekend warriors are done.......