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I was looking through some boxes of bullets this morning and decided to see if there was a decided difference in brands of bullets and weights of bullets.

Each bullet was tested by weighing 10 each from the box and taking the average:

1. Hornady 30 Cal. /.308 180gr BTSP #3072.
Ave. = 179.87 gr...............dev. +180.2, -179.7

2. Hornady 30 Cal./.308 180 gr RN #3075
Ave. = 179.97 gr..............dev. +180.1, - 179.7

3. Remington 30 Cal./.308 (30/30)SP 150gr.
Ave. = 150.74gr...............dev. +150.6, -150.0

4. Sierra 30 Cal./.308 168gr. HPBT Moly Coated
Ave. = 168.03gr...............dev. +168.2, - 167.9

5. Sierra 30 Cal./.308 150gr. SPITZER BT #2125
Ave. = 150.02gr...............dev. +150.2, -149.8

6. Remington 35 Cal./.358 200gr. RN
Ave. = 200.68gr...............dev. +202.0, -199.8

7. Nosler .44 Cal./.429 240gr. HP
Ave. = 240.07gr...............dev. +240.3, -239.8

You be the judge. To me the test proves that what you pay for is what you get. The best results came from the Sierra and Nosler bullets, which also cost the most. :thumb:
 

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Sierra 168 grain Match Kings are the 30 caliber bullets that all others are judged by. Federal Gold Metal Match .308 Winchester ammo uses this bullet.
The only bullets I used were hunting bullets that I happen to have on hand.

I am not going nuts. It was raining here this morning and I did not have a lot to do and I sure did not want to get near the wife and her honey-do list. About the only place she will not bother me is when I set down at the loading bench. :thumb:
 

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I agree with the data posted. I feel Sierra makes the best bullet for the money on the market today. I shoot a lot of Sierra and Speer bullets. Shoot Hornady, Winchester, and Remington also and they are a great bargain. I can't see spending more money to buy fifty bullets as opposed to less money for one hundred. Reason why I shoot very few Nosler, Barnes, or Swift.

Powerpoint and cor-lokt bullets are fine bullets. they do well on whatever I choose to hunt with them. I use a meplat trimmer/uniformer on them and they work, may not be up to Sierra performance but for the money they work well.

Bullet weight is just one of those variables that we can do something about. I place each on a digital scale after the meplat is uniformed and the weight difference is reduced to thousandths on most. Factor in brass weight and thickness differences and applying uniformity leaves the most critical variable, powder. Powder selection should also be scrutinized with the same objective in mind. A chronograph is necessary to do this but you can use data from published reports that include velocity deviations and deviations of velocity at temperature variations.

Some very good powders out there are temperature sensitive and choosing a powder that offers the most consistant speeds and tightest groups may not be the least temperature sensitive. This could cause as much as six inches of impact deviation, depending on range, from a 90 degree temperature at "sight in" vs. a 20 degree temperature at the time of hunt.

Handloading is an experiment in physics and craftmanship. The pride you take in the craft is rewarded in the field. What a fun hobby.
 

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I also shoot the lesser expensive bullets in my hunting rifles. The distances that I mostly shoot in the woods are less than 150 yards, so the accuracy of the Remington's and Hornady's is more than adequate for that. When you are talking maybe 1/2" at 100 yards, the premium bullets just aren't worth their price. I can buy 500 Cor-Lokt's in bulk for about the same price as 200 premiums. If you want the best, go for it, but for general hunting, the standard bullets will do just fine.
 

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I do subscribe to the theory that you get what you pay for, I've shot thousands of Nosler bullets in the last 40+ years. I've also shot thousands of other bullets too. It took me 15 years before I finally got around to the Nosler bullet line, I think the added accuracy and terminal performance of the Nosler bullet is well worth the extra money spent. I'm not wealthy, I squeeze a buck just like the next guy, quality bullets are worth what ever I have to pay. If I don't get my animal it's no ones fault but my own, I have no alibi!! With that being said I have no quarrel with anyone that uses Remington Cor/loks or Winchester SP/bullets, I have them in my reloading room as I write this. If I want to shoot just to be shooting they are a lot cheaper than using the more expensive bullets. Plus those kind of bullets are perfect for my M-1 Garand. that's my .02 worth!! William
 

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For what it's worth. The two bullets of ours you weighed, were within specs. but that 202 was pushing the limits. If you have any goofy ones in there let me know.

Kris.
My favorite rifle/caliber is the .35 Remington in a Marlin model 336. It is my #1 at 100 yards here in the Ozark Hardwood Forest and I have harvested some fine bucks with that caliber and rifle combination.

I purchased these bullets from Midway USA and on the box it was labeled Remington .35 Cal. Bullets 2. These bullets were on sale at a very fair price at the time. Does the information on the box "Bullets 2" on the label mean they are seconds?

Here is the data for the individual 10 bullets weighed from that box:
#1......200.2 gr
2......200.3 gr
3......199.8 gr
4......200.1 gr
5......201.7 gr
6......199.9 gr
7......201.7 gr
8......200.8 gr
9......200.3 gr
10......202.0 gr
Average Weight = 200.68

Here is the load I am using:
Bullet- Rem. 200gr RN #3515
Powder- IMR 4064 39..4 gr (Max. load use caution)
Primer- CCI 200 Large Rifle
Case- R-P/.35Rem
Velocity 2000 fps
I have never seen any pressure indications of this load being to hot for this cartridge. My loading manual warns that this is a "Maximum" load so if anyone uses this data "be cautious."

I have found this to be a very accurate load in my rifle and I have complete faith that it will perform well on deer. I hope to someday test it on a nice size bear. :thumb:
 

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I purchased these bullets from Midway USA and on the box it was labeled Remington .35 Cal. Bullets 2. These bullets were on sale at a very fair price at the time. Does the information on the box "Bullets 2" on the label mean they are seconds?

No, that is just some sort of packaging mark. We do not sell seconds (to the public). If it does not meet our specs or SAAMI specs, it does not leave the plant.
 

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Once I started weighing, I just kept on with other bullets.

Here are my findings with the Remington bullets I have on hand. High and low bullets are in bold.

30 Cal 150 Gr RNCL 30/30
1 - 150.3
2 - 150.2
3 - 150.4
4 - 150.6
5 - 150.5
6 - 149.7
7 - 150.3
8 - 149.6
9 - 150.7
10- 149.8
AVG - 150.2

30 Cal 150 Gr PSP CL
1 - 150.8
2 - 150.6
3 - 151.2
4 - 151.0
5 - 150.7
6 - 150.2
7 - 151.9
8 - 150.5
9 - 150.7
10- 149.9
AVG - 150.8

35 cal 200 Grain RNCL (35 Remington)
1 - 201.1
2 - 200.4
3 - 200.4
4 - 200.6
5 - 200.6
6 - 201.1
7 - 200.9
8 - 200.9
9 - 200.6
10- 201.0
AVG - 200.8

41 Cal 210 Gr JSP (41 Magnum)
1 - 209.7
2 - 209.8
3 - 209.8
4 - 210.0
5 - 209.9
6 - 209.8
7 - 210.0
8 - 209.7
9 - 209.9
10- 210.0
AVG - 209.9

45 Cal 300 Gr JHP (45/70)
1 - 299.3
2 - 298.9
3 - 299.2
4 - 299.1
5 - 299.9
6 - 299.5
7 - 298.7
8 - 299.1
9 - 299.6
10- 299.8
AVG - 299.3

I have several other brands that I'll get to in the next few days.
 
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