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I have shot Rem 870's for 30+ years.I am thinking about getting an auto to help reduce recoil.I was going to get a Rem 11-87 but have really been loooking at a SBEII. Are they really that much better than the 11-87?
 

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I don't know that they are that much better but i have had both and right now i have the original SBE and would not trade it for anything. It will kick out anything you put in it. I goose hunt, dove hunt, and duck hunt with it and it is a great gun plus you can break it totally down to nothing for cleaning it. The one thing i recommend is if you are just wanting to shoot a bunch of 3-1/2" shells in it....go buy a .10 ga. None of the 12 ga's are really made to shoot a lot of 3-1/2" shells thru. It is simply hard on the gun and eventually things will start to break. The thing that will break on the Benelli is usually going to be the extractor which can easily be replaced. It boils down to getting what you want...they are both good guns. However if you want to shoot 3-1/2's through it mainly...you can get a pump .10ga and 12ga. for what you will pay for one SBE. I like guns and you can never have too many....so it is strictly up to you. But yes they are both excellent guns.
 

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Any of the big three will take care of you. Win SX3, SBEII or an Extrema II. With a little luck i'll be behind a new Extrema II before season opens...
 

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you want a real gun buy a Winchester or a Beretta
You have any facts to back that statement up, or is it just blowing hot air.

If you look at what guys that shoot 20, 30 or more THOUSAND rounds a year shoot, you'll see LOT's more Benelli's than all the others combined. Look on the competition circuit. These guys don't take their guns lightly. If they don't perform, they find something that does. The TOP guns shoot Benelli's. Guys that shoot a couple of boxes a year duck hunting don't know how a real gun performs.
 

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If you are wanting reduced recoil, you should look at a heavier gun. I have an SBE II and it shoots great, never any problems, but it is very light and when shooting 3.5" mags it gets a little too light for my taste. I went and got a browning bps 10 and this thing shoots great and it weighs what feels like 50 lbs, but the recoil is like a 20 guage.
 

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You are thinking right! Get the SBEII and you wont be sorry, I promise!!:thumb:
 

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You have any facts to back that statement up, or is it just blowing hot air.

If you look at what guys that shoot 20, 30 or more THOUSAND rounds a year shoot, you'll see LOT's more Benelli's than all the others combined. Look on the competition circuit. These guys don't take their guns lightly. If they don't perform, they find something that does. The TOP guns shoot Benelli's. Guys that shoot a couple of boxes a year duck hunting don't know how a real gun performs.
Because Benelli has the Deepest Pockets
 

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I duck hunt almost every day of season and goose hunt any where from 20-30 days after the conservation hunt starts. I carry people that use SBE'S, Browning's, Winchesters, Mossbergs, Berretta's, Remington's etc. The guns with the most malfunctions are the Bennelli's. Maybe it's because they dont shoot 20-30 thousand rounds a year thru 'em. Duck/goose hunting, 'specialy goose hunting, is a nasty and dirty job. The guns with ZERO failures are the pumps of course. I have used a Mossberg 835 untill I have had to change out the bolt because it broke. I then wanted to go to a semi-auto and did. I shoot a Browning gold and couldnt be happier. It has to be cleaned on a regular basis also. But I dont see the problems with the Brownings that I do with the other brands. My 2 cents worth...d2
 

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I duck hunt almost every day of season and goose hunt any where from 20-30 days after the conservation hunt starts. I carry people that use SBE'S, Browning's, Winchesters, Mossbergs, Berretta's, Remington's etc. The guns with the most malfunctions are the Bennelli's. Maybe it's because they dont shoot 20-30 thousand rounds a year thru 'em. Duck/goose hunting, 'specialy goose hunting, is a nasty and dirty job. The guns with ZERO failures are the pumps of course. I have used a Mossberg 835 untill I have had to change out the bolt because it broke. I then wanted to go to a semi-auto and did. I shoot a Browning gold and couldnt be happier. It has to be cleaned on a regular basis also. But I dont see the problems with the Brownings that I do with the other brands. My 2 cents worth...d2
Glad you're liking your Gold, D2. My cousin had a 3" and a 3.5" Gold and finally traded the 3.5" and got a SBEII because more hunts than not, it turned into a single shot rather than a semi-auto. He's never had a problem with his 3" though. Go figure.
My most reliable shotgun has been my Franchi and it's been treated pretty rough. My SBE has had one malfunction this year but I did have a hunt last year where it got a case of the hangs.
My two favorite shotguns are my Browning Auto-5 and my Remington 1100 20ga. but they've probably been the least reliable of all my guns... especially the 1100.
 

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If a SBE won't hold up to lots and lots of 3.5" shells, then its a peice of junk. Buy a Gold and be happy
Had a gold and it was the worst shotgun i ever had. I got rid of it a few years ago. Now i have a Gold light .10ga. and can't get it to pattern worth a crap. I have been working on it for 3 years now and it just won't pattern beyond 32 yds. and i have spent a fortune on chokes like "KICKS" and a few others also. I would stay with Beretta, Remington, or Benelli.
 
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