Any of you all ever hunted on one of these Sweet 16 areas with their APR's? Maybe not for some but chasing them thru the woods with a tape measure to see if they meet the 15/18 spread or beam regs is tough on old folks. But one of the main reasons I have seen this on these permit hunts you have folks coming in to these area from places that a deer under that is the biggest thing they ever seen. For many folks I have talked to from other areas just a standard legal buck is a deer of a life time compared to what normally considered a dandy.A lot of people just walk around and jump shoot deer. My only advice would be to get in a tree and climb high! It is ridiculous the amount of non legal bucks that we find that were left to rot because people don't know what they are shooting at.