Arkansas Hunting banner

A random gripe....

1172 Views 11 Replies 9 Participants Last post by  fed up
My BIL just called and told me that one of the holes that we have hunted occasionally on Black River got "red-lined" by AGFC!!!

It was nothing that we had done, but apparently last season some folks from Tennessee had been hunting this same hole. That's all good. We hit it a time or two early in the season, and a couple of times late last year when we got there folks were set up in it, so we went to the "big hole" close by.

Anyway, the hole as it sat didn't appeal to them so they cleared out some trees, left their dekes and then abandoned it. AGFC came in and sat up on it, as the clearing had been outside of regs!! They then pulled the dekes at the close of the season and "tagged" it.

Now not only did they (OOSers) screw themselves and never returned... they have screwed it up for everyone! It now has signs and paint indicating that it is not to be entered during the open days of the season.

This was a sweet late season hole. It was narrow and long and depending on the wind you could set up to either end of it and have ducks to work pretty good when they were hole shy of other places. The trees, that were basicially scrub brush; actually acted to funnel the ducks to either end and made for a good hole. Plus they provided a good natural blind in the center!

I had nicknamed it "the landing strip" as it was similar to a runway from overhead. Yeah it had obstructions down the center, but the ducks would glide in and hit the holes to either end!! Now, it's TOAST!!!!

Like I said, it wasn't a perfect hole, and we rarely hit it. But when things got tense, it was a go-to hole!!!

I'm not sure now how long we'll have to leave it....... it SUCKS!!!
1 - 12 of 12 Posts
I very seldom hunt public land,but I dont understand the red lining a hole because it has been cleaned up a bit. I saw a hole on Bayou De View that had been marked no hunting,heck it looked fine to me. As long as folks realize everyone has the right to hunt the hole,why would G&F care if it was cleaned up? I know you're not supposed to cut anything on wma's,but bow hunters cut small saplings for shooting lanes and it dont hurt anything.Its not like you're gonna take a D8 dozer in and clear the whole dang woods.
I know some folks that were "guiding" on Bayou Deview and cut out some holes that have been red lines a few years ago. The ducks used it anyway, they don't need to go in and cut down full grown oaks to make a big hole. That is destruction of state property and it creates fights over holes and everything else. OOS'ers mess things up good. :smack:
Bowhunters

I very seldom hunt public land,but I dont understand the red lining a hole because it has been cleaned up a bit. I saw a hole on Bayou De View that had been marked no hunting,heck it looked fine to me. As long as folks realize everyone has the right to hunt the hole,why would G&F care if it was cleaned up? I know you're not supposed to cut anything on wma's,but bow hunters cut small saplings for shooting lanes and it dont hurt anything.Its not like you're gonna take a D8 dozer in and clear the whole dang woods.
If you are a smart bowhunter you do not have a folding saw with you anymore. You will get tagged now.
I'm not a smart bowhunter,but I dont bowhunt public land. I have to hunt this private crap:razz:
My BIL just called and told me that one of the holes that we have hunted occasionally on Black River got "red-lined" by AGFC!!!

It was nothing that we had done, but apparently last season some folks from Tennessee had been hunting this same hole. That's all good. We hit it a time or two early in the season, and a couple of times late last year when we got there folks were set up in it, so we went to the "big hole" close by.

Anyway, the hole as it sat didn't appeal to them so they cleared out some trees, left their dekes and then abandoned it. AGFC came in and sat up on it, as the clearing had been outside of regs!! They then pulled the dekes at the close of the season and "tagged" it.

Now not only did they (OOSers) screw themselves and never returned... they have screwed it up for everyone! It now has signs and paint indicating that it is not to be entered during the open days of the season.

This was a sweet late season hole. It was narrow and long and depending on the wind you could set up to either end of it and have ducks to work pretty good when they were hole shy of other places. The trees, that were basicially scrub brush; actually acted to funnel the ducks to either end and made for a good hole. Plus they provided a good natural blind in the center!

I had nicknamed it "the landing strip" as it was similar to a runway from overhead. Yeah it had obstructions down the center, but the ducks would glide in and hit the holes to either end!! Now, it's TOAST!!!!

Like I said, it wasn't a perfect hole, and we rarely hit it. But when things got tense, it was a go-to hole!!!

I'm not sure now how long we'll have to leave it....... it SUCKS!!!
TYPICAL AGFC, we can't clear out any holes for ducks to use, but by george we can puts out some of them there spinners and water throwers. And boy can we wack us a whole lot of them brown malliards now. :mad:
My BIL just called and told me that one of the holes that we have hunted occasionally on Black River got "red-lined" by AGFC!!!

It was nothing that we had done, but apparently last season some folks from Tennessee had been hunting this same hole. That's all good. We hit it a time or two early in the season, and a couple of times late last year when we got there folks were set up in it, so we went to the "big hole" close by.

Anyway, the hole as it sat didn't appeal to them so they cleared out some trees, left their dekes and then abandoned it. AGFC came in and sat up on it, as the clearing had been outside of regs!! They then pulled the dekes at the close of the season and "tagged" it.

Now not only did they (OOSers) screw themselves and never returned... they have screwed it up for everyone! It now has signs and paint indicating that it is not to be entered during the open days of the season.

This was a sweet late season hole. It was narrow and long and depending on the wind you could set up to either end of it and have ducks to work pretty good when they were hole shy of other places. The trees, that were basicially scrub brush; actually acted to funnel the ducks to either end and made for a good hole. Plus they provided a good natural blind in the center!

I had nicknamed it "the landing strip" as it was similar to a runway from overhead. Yeah it had obstructions down the center, but the ducks would glide in and hit the holes to either end!! Now, it's TOAST!!!!

Like I said, it wasn't a perfect hole, and we rarely hit it. But when things got tense, it was a go-to hole!!!

I'm not sure now how long we'll have to leave it....... it SUCKS!!!
I thought it was 10 years but I could be way off on that.
I thought it was 10 years but I could be way off on that.
I might be mistaken, but I believe that its off limits to hunting until the area manager takes down the signs/paint.

I had my favorite hole red lined after a local hunter/guide cleared some trees out of it; its been 5 years and it's still marked.
We went through it yestrday while we went to clean up another spot...... I can;t see what the fuss was about! Hell, it was thicker than it has ever been!!! But it's sure posted with paint and signs...
My BIL just called and told me that one of the holes that we have hunted occasionally on Black River got "red-lined" by AGFC!!!

It was nothing that we had done, but apparently last season some folks from Tennessee had been hunting this same hole. That's all good. We hit it a time or two early in the season, and a couple of times late last year when we got there folks were set up in it, so we went to the "big hole" close by.

Anyway, the hole as it sat didn't appeal to them so they cleared out some trees, left their dekes and then abandoned it. AGFC came in and sat up on it, as the clearing had been outside of regs!! They then pulled the dekes at the close of the season and "tagged" it.

Now not only did they (OOSers) screw themselves and never returned... they have screwed it up for everyone! It now has signs and paint indicating that it is not to be entered during the open days of the season.

This was a sweet late season hole. It was narrow and long and depending on the wind you could set up to either end of it and have ducks to work pretty good when they were hole shy of other places. The trees, that were basicially scrub brush; actually acted to funnel the ducks to either end and made for a good hole. Plus they provided a good natural blind in the center!

I had nicknamed it "the landing strip" as it was similar to a runway from overhead. Yeah it had obstructions down the center, but the ducks would glide in and hit the holes to either end!! Now, it's TOAST!!!!

Like I said, it wasn't a perfect hole, and we rarely hit it. But when things got tense, it was a go-to hole!!!

I'm not sure now how long we'll have to leave it....... it SUCKS!!!
Thats to bad I really hate that for you cause it is hard enough to find a good hole then to have this happen
I very seldom hunt public land,but I dont understand the red lining a hole because it has been cleaned up a bit. I saw a hole on Bayou De View that had been marked no hunting,heck it looked fine to me. As long as folks realize everyone has the right to hunt the hole,why would G&F care if it was cleaned up? I know you're not supposed to cut anything on wma's,but bow hunters cut small saplings for shooting lanes and it dont hurt anything.Its not like you're gonna take a D8 dozer in and clear the whole dang woods.
So the game warden can write more tickets.
1 - 12 of 12 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top