I got a Remington 700 from a forum member, put a Timney and a new scope on it, and tuned in a load. RL16 powder, 123 grain hornady sst. It shoots cloverleafs all day long. My son took it to take a kid hunting this morning. 100 yards it turned the deer a flip, DRT. Took out both shoulders, grazed the spine, and exited.