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    Air Evac?

    How many of you subscribe to an air evac program? We've thought about it for a long time, but recently signed up. Heard of too many folks getting stuck with bills of $10,000.00 plus when they were transported by helicopter after an accident. Seems like lately it doesn't take much of an accident for somebody to call for an air ambulance. It's only about $60/year for the family, so it's not cost prohibitive.


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    Air Evac?

    I signed us up for five years a few weeks ago.


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    Air Evac?

    What happens when you get picked up by "The Wing" instead of Air Evac?

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    we've been subscribed for a couple of years now.

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    Do they have them? If so, great. There are two or three services in this area now.

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    There are several that work together all throughout the country. We were planning a trip to Illinois and saw that we would be covered even up there if needed. I live just a mile or so from the hospital and hear the helicopter going in and out all the time. It always reminds me to say a prayer for all those involved.

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    A friend had a logging accident in Dec. they medivaced him out, he passed away if flight. His widow received a bill of $17,000. Sad to say they did not have Air evac.
    Another friend was medivaced from Baxter Regional to the LR. VA, by Drs orders after having a major stroke. his bill was $14,000. and the VA will not pick up a dime of it.

    $60.00 and list your whole family cheap and twice the price!

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    I plan to this fall.

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    His bill was $14,000. and the VA will not pick up a dime of it.
    From what I understand, medical insurance doesn't cover it either.

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    As long as you are within airvac coverage area it transfers. Also airvac is good about as long as ur paying something a month and insurance will actually pay most of it

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    We're members and most of my family has signed up recently also. They have been great folks to work with!

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    They're flying over the house now. XBH--you mentioned that insurance will pay most of it. I hope you're right, and although I have no personal experience with it, I've heard several cases of people that had good insurance that wouldn't pay for air evac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delbert View Post
    A friend had a logging accident in Dec. they medivaced him out, he passed away if flight. His widow received a bill of $17,000. Sad to say they did not have Air evac.
    Another friend was medivaced from Baxter Regional to the LR. VA, by Drs orders after having a major stroke. his bill was $14,000. and the VA will not pick up a dime of it.

    $60.00 and list your whole family cheap and twice the price!
    Bad part is that they say that's how much it cost to operate them but they flew one in for our company trying to get us to sign up and we had 140 employees and they flew it in and took a couple of employees out for flights etc. and then flew it back. I realize it's marketing but we only paid a couple grand to cover the entire company so if it cost what they say it does, it would have taken 10 years for them to even break even from the demonstration because they flew it 30 miles each way and took 2 trips toting employees around and had it running on the ground for close to an hour. So you'll have to pardon me when I call BS at what they charge and just because you can charge that much don't make it right.

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    I understand what you're saying SA, but like it or not, we don't set their prices. I'd hate to get a bill for $10k for a helicopter ride. Sure doesn't make sense when you hear of someone getting airlifted to the Med (Trauma Center in Memphis), only to be treated and released. When that happens, it must not have been such a big emergency, but I'm sure of of the EMT's and such on here might think differently. Like in sports I guess, somebody has to make a call. I really do appreciate having health care professionals available.

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    I might be sounding like a commercial here, but it just makes sense to sign up. From their website:
    As a member of Air Evac Lifeteam, we will work on your behalf with your benefits provider to secure payment for the flight. Whatever your benefits provider pays will be considered payment in full. You will not incur any out-of-pocket expenses in connection with your flight if you are flown by Air Evac Lifeteam.
    For $65/year for your family, it makes good sense. Maybe Obama should make this mandatory as well...... Never mind, it would make too much sense.

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    Yes and the ambulance rides (automotive) are outrageous also and they actually have the nerve to complain about the labor rate being $90 per hour for repair work. I have herd of one accident costing 8,000 for 4 people to ride to the hospital.

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    Re: Air Evac?

    I am always impressed by what EMT's and other first responders are able to do! I don't want a helicopter ride though! If I am that bad just let me go!

    I know if you ride a tour helicopter ride it doesn't cost ant where near that much money!! Ya think some over charging might be going on??

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentassassin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Delbert View Post
    A friend had a logging accident in Dec. they medivaced him out, he passed away if flight. His widow received a bill of $17,000. Sad to say they did not have Air evac.
    Another friend was medivaced from Baxter Regional to the LR. VA, by Drs orders after having a major stroke. his bill was $14,000. and the VA will not pick up a dime of it.

    $60.00 and list your whole family cheap and twice the price!
    Bad part is that they say that's how much it cost to operate them but they flew one in for our company trying to get us to sign up and we had 140 employees and they flew it in and took a couple of employees out for flights etc. and then flew it back. I realize it's marketing but we only paid a couple grand to cover the entire company so if it cost what they say it does, it would have taken 10 years for them to even break even from the demonstration because they flew it 30 miles each way and took 2 trips toting employees around and had it running on the ground for close to an hour. So you'll have to pardon me when I call BS at what they charge and just because you can charge that much don't make it right.
    Call it BS if you want, however if you need them they are priceless. After having my left arm crushed at work by flying me to The Med they were able to save my left arm. It was $12,000 from Marmaduke to Memphis.

    You have to understand the over head. Choppers aren't cheap neither are pilots, flight crews, insurance, offices plus I would have paid twice that much out of pocket to save my arm. Its all in what's important to you I guess.

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    Yes I agree we need them.

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    The company I work for has EC 135s and Sikorsky S-76s under contract to do our flying. Not including the monthly contract cost our hourly rate is a few thousand an hour for the EC-135 it is equivalent to the Bell 206 long ranger and 407 that these ambulance companies fly. And the more you fly the lower the hourly cost is. The 76 is double the cost.
    We used to have an Air med availabe from PHI it was a 76 with a couple of paramedics. It was close to 50,000 for a pick up 100 miles offshore.
    My insurance covers an air ambulance. I don't know about the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve72444 View Post
    Call it BS if you want, however if you need them they are priceless. After having my left arm crushed at work by flying me to The Med they were able to save my left arm. It was $12,000 from Marmaduke to Memphis.

    You have to understand the over head. Choppers aren't cheap neither are pilots, flight crews, insurance, offices plus I would have paid twice that much out of pocket to save my arm. Its all in what's important to you I guess.
    If the overhead is as high as they say then why spend that much on an exhibition? Isn't that just raising the overhead? Truth is that doesn't cost anywhere near that much, they're just price gouging because they can. Being able to charge that much don't make it right. My wife's a health care professional and I owned and operated a business for 5 years so I'm familiar with the cost of running a business and I'm familiar with the cost of health care and health care providers and I still think it's BS! My youngest had to be picked by Angle 1 and flown to children's as soon as he was born and yea it's expensive and yea money isn't an issue in a situation like that but using that desperation to charge rediculous amounts don't make it right. If you got flown from Marmaduke was it not work comp anyway?

    How much you figure that crew costs per hour anyway? My guess is $300 an hour max! Crew $300, helicopter $3000, overhead and profit $8700?!? Really.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve72444 View Post
    Call it BS if you want, however if you need them they are priceless. After having my left arm crushed at work by flying me to The Med they were able to save my left arm. It was $12,000 from Marmaduke to Memphis.

    You have to understand the over head. Choppers aren't cheap neither are pilots, flight crews, insurance, offices plus I would have paid twice that much out of pocket to save my arm. Its all in what's important to you I guess.
    I know you are right! When you really need one it doesn't matter the cost! All med costs seem to be more than what they should be! Wish it were different and prices more reasonable!!!

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    You have helicopter equipment, medical equipment, fuel, salaries of those on board etc. As you all know they are out to turn a profit, so yes everything is inflated, just like a hospital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bird dog View Post
    Yes and the ambulance rides (automotive) are outrageous also and they actually have the nerve to complain about the labor rate being $90 per hour for repair work. I have herd of one accident costing 8,000 for 4 people to ride to the hospital.
    When we had our wreck, we (3 of us), rode in the same ambulance approx 9 miles to Conway Regional...cost us $745 per person even though we shared the same one! Thank goidness it wasn't our fault and responsible party's insurance covered it all.

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    Looks like Arkansas BCBS will pay up to $5000.00 for air ambulance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentassassin View Post
    If the overhead is as high as they say then why spend that much on an exhibition? Isn't that just raising the overhead? Truth is that doesn't cost anywhere near that much, they're just price gouging because they can. Being able to charge that much don't make it right. My wife's a health care professional and I owned and operated a business for 5 years so I'm familiar with the cost of running a business and I'm familiar with the cost of health care and health care providers and I still think it's BS! My youngest had to be picked by Angle 1 and flown to children's as soon as he was born and yea it's expensive and yea money isn't an issue in a situation like that but using that desperation to charge rediculous amounts don't make it right. If you got flown from Marmaduke was it not work comp anyway?

    How much you figure that crew costs per hour anyway? My guess is $300 an hour max! Crew $300, helicopter $3000, overhead and profit $8700?!? Really.....
    The crew gets paid 24/7

    Just like an ambulance...... the downtime is the killer.


    And a aspirin costs 10$ at the hospital because there is security, utilities, labor, etc. allocated....... sure you knew that though since your wife works in healthcare and all....

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullcredit View Post
    Looks like Arkansas BCBS will pay up to $5000.00 for air ambulance.
    Because they know that's a reasonable amount, they didn't pull that number out of the sky.

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    Air Evac?

    Been there done that! I didn't have it. Got taken from Batesville to Little Rock for $18,000. Needless to say I have it now!


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