Matt Jones is a loser [Archive] - ArkansasHunting.net

Buck

11-06-2004, 04:28 PM

Now Deerhunter dont be so hard on him,what is it I always hear,"If it werent for Matt we wouldnt even have been in the ballgame"So whats the point,I'd rather not be in the game than to watch him CHOKE at the end almost everytime.And Rattle,I told you I would be the first to say I was wrong when he showed us how great you think he is,we're runnin outta games and he aint showed me shit yet,but there is still a chance. smile.gif

fisherman

11-06-2004, 04:37 PM

If the defence had not let them go the lenth of the field we had it won, why don't you say something about why we can tackle any one graemlins/smack.gif don't put it on Matt he got us the lead.

Buck

11-06-2004, 05:02 PM

He's the quarterback,he's gonna get all the credit when we win,so he needs to get the credit when we keep comin up just a little short.How many games just this season has he fumbled or thrown an interception right at the end of the game and we lost.I wont argue about it anymore,this is just my opinion,and I know most dont agree,but to me the only way we are gonna see him on sundays in the years to come,is if he becomes a TV Evangelist.

ABolt

11-06-2004, 05:11 PM

You win as a team and lose as a team, at least that is what my coaches always taught me.

DODGEMAN

11-06-2004, 05:33 PM

I think he could have made some better decision at the end of the game, but if a hog had caught the ball he would be the hero. I had to listen to it on the radio, and is sounded like the defense choked? :mad:

MountainBuck

11-06-2004, 06:44 PM

Anytime you score 32 points on the road and lose, I'm not going to blame it on the Offense!!!!

Ruger

11-06-2004, 07:01 PM

I thought it was a bad play all together..I suspected they thought he could throw it to the back of the endzone. I think there were two receivers in the same area so I think it was a designed play....had the pocket not collapsed, both receivers and would have been in the endzone for the "jump ball". It's shame cuz a few quick passes and we would have been in field goal range. That was not Matt's call...that was Nutt's call.

Now about the defense...I would definitely be looking behind closed doors if I was the def coordinator. They played soft and got burned. If I was going to play that deep, I think I would have least bumped the receivers off the line cuz the pocket was collapsing on every pass attempt. They played so deep that it forced the corners into one on one coverage and the cb's are not that experienced for that. Maybe 3 down line man and 8 d-backs?

deerhunter

11-06-2004, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by Ruger:
It's shame cuz a few quick passes and we would have been in field goal range. That was not Matt's call...that was Nutt's call.
Matt threw the ball...nut did'nt,it was his decision to make,the play was'nt there. There were five defenders there waiting on that duck to land. And yes my point was like yours,just a few more yards and you are in feild goal range.

The defense,I agree they looked terrible in the second half but it's hard for me to blame my defense for an interception thrown by the quarterback. graemlins/smack.gif

MountainBuck

11-06-2004, 07:45 PM

The offense scored and gave Arkansas A 4 point lead with just over 3 minutes left to go in the game on the road in a hostile environment. It took South Carolina just over 2 minutes to go from kickoff to them to score to take a 3 point lead. Arkansas gets the ball with 1 min and 9 seconds left to go in the game and Matt Jones is the Goat because he Can't go down and score and win the game, That is ridiculous. The biggest thing I saw Matt Jones did wrong was to Score with 3 Minutes left to go in the game, he should have run the clock down to less than 30 seconds and maybe the defense could have held that long. He should have known that South Carolina would score on us with that much time left to go in the Game. (That's Sarcasm.) Two of the best QB's in history in my opinion, Joe Montana and Steve Young would have both been losers if they would have played for the Cinncinatti Team, Coaches and Owners.

deerhunter

11-06-2004, 08:14 PM

If it was new for Matt then maybe I could relate but this is happening game after game. He is a senior and you'd think by now he would have gotten a little smarter but he just keeps making very poor decisions or fumbling by holding the ball out there for everybody to hit.

Even the announcers question him and his decisions,everybody can see it.

I dont care how pathetic your defense plays it does'nt take away from Matts throwing the football into quadruple coverage.

Would it have been any different if the score had been 10 to 7 when he threw the int? I dont think so,still kinda hard to blame the defense for a quarterbacks miscues.

These are just my opinions I aint try'n to piss nobody off....

MountainBuck

11-06-2004, 08:21 PM

I'm just tellin ya, I've seen the best quarterbacks in the NFL make poor plays when consistently put in high pressure situations. He was tryin to win the game, which he has won many in overtime situations. I've seen Brett Favre throw 4 interceptions in one game. It is a hell of a lot easier to look like a great quaterback if your not put in those high pressure situations time after time, which he has been. If the defense would have done their job even 1/2 ass, he would have never been put in that position to have to win the game by himself. To Blame that loss on him totally because of that last interception is just unreasonable.

deerhunter

11-06-2004, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by MountainBuck:
Two of the best QB's in history in my opinion, Joe Montana and Steve Young would have both been losers if they would have played for the Cinncinatti Team, Coaches and Owners. And the 49ers would have not one their chamionships without Young and Montana.Remember the 49ers first Superbowl victory when the Bengals scored with less than two minutes in the game and Mr Montana drove the 49ers down the feild for the winning score. :D

Quarterbacks can win the game even when the defense is trying it's best to lose it.

Peace out.... graemlins/thumb.gif

MountainBuck

11-06-2004, 08:33 PM

You could put Joe Montana or Steve Young either in their prime on this team we have now and they would still not win a championship!!

MY OPINION Only cause we'll never know. :D

deerhunter

11-06-2004, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by MountainBuck:
You could put Joe Montana or Steve Young either in their prime on this team we have now and they would still not win a championship!!

MY OPINION Only cause we'll never know. :D Thats cause their too old now. :D ;) tongue.gif :D

MountainBuck

11-06-2004, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by deerhunter:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by MountainBuck:
You could put Joe Montana or Steve Young either in their prime MY OPINION Only cause we'll never know. :D Thats cause their too old now. :D ;) tongue.gif :D [/QUOTE]I said in their Prime. Sometimes I think I'm just misunderstood!!!! graemlins/smack.gif

DODGEMAN

11-06-2004, 09:13 PM

I agree.

MountainBuck

11-06-2004, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by deerhunter:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MountainBuck:
[qb] Quarterbacks can win the game even when the defense is trying it's best to lose it.

And defenses can lose the game even when the quarterbacks are trying their best to win it!!

MountainBuck

11-06-2004, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by DODGEMAN:
I agree. You agree with what Doodgie??? :confused: :D Don't tell me you and I agree on something, Their may be hope for you yet. :D

DODGEMAN

11-06-2004, 09:23 PM

You are misunderstood. :rolleyes: :D

MountainBuck

11-06-2004, 09:25 PM

Well, it's a start!! tongue.gif

DODGEMAN

11-06-2004, 09:37 PM

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Rattle-m-up™

11-06-2004, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by deerhunter:
Lets face it,this guy is a loser plain and simple. Yeah, he goofed up on the field today...you know what...he's going to graduate at the end of the year...he's never been in trouble on or off campus...he volunteers at FCA events all over the state...yep, he's a real loser.

Trapper

11-06-2004, 10:34 PM

At least Stans boys won big tonight. graemlins/thumb.gif I know, it don't count, exhibition game against podunk state a&m but I've got to cling to something.

DODGEMAN

11-06-2004, 10:36 PM

Yea I hope the B-ball team is good, what do you think NCAA or NIT?

possum

11-06-2004, 10:57 PM

I'm think bubble team NCAA but probably NIT this year.

Trapper

11-06-2004, 11:08 PM

I have no idea. We finally have some size but they're green so who knows. One thing is for sure. It's another year without Nolan so it's already a complete success. graemlins/thumb.gif

possum

11-06-2004, 11:15 PM

Back to Matt Jones. Inadvertant whistle on a kickoff taking the ball away from the hogs, Hillis fumble returned for a TD.UMMMMMMMMMM, sounds like Jones lost that game all by himself to me.

deerhunter

11-06-2004, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by Rattle-m-up:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by deerhunter:
Lets face it,this guy is a loser plain and simple. Yeah, he goofed up on the field today...you know what...he's going to graduate at the end of the year...he's never been in trouble on or off campus...he volunteers at FCA events all over the state...yep, he's a real loser. [/QUOTE]I could have sworn I posted this in the sports forum and not the life forum.

You know I meant at foozball and not a loser as a human being. graemlins/smack.gif .......geeesh :D

deerhunter

11-06-2004, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by possum:
Back to Matt Jones. Inadvertant whistle on a kickoff taking the ball away from the hogs, Hillis fumble returned for a TD.UMMMMMMMMMM, sounds like Jones lost that game all by himself to my. No just blew it like he does most of the time......................at the end of the game. graemlins/smack.gif C'mon guys yall know what I'm talk'n about here,Matt does good most of the game but seems to always make his worst decisions come crunch time. I just think you have to learn from your mistakes and be better for it next game. I think dude is a really good athlete and could play at the next level but he has to get his mind in the game for a complete four quarters. Pressure situations are what define most athletes as good or great and so far Matt struggles under pressure more times than not.

In the game Rattle not in life....just wanted to clear that up. :D

Whats up with the inadvertant whistle anyway,dont seem quite fair if you ask me. The team that suffers loses the game on what was a potential score.

possum

11-06-2004, 11:38 PM

deerhunter, I also think he'll play at the next level but not as a QB if he don't learn to make better decisions at crunch time. I just don't think it's fair to lump all the blame on him.

deerhunter

11-06-2004, 11:44 PM

I did post earlier that the defense stunk it up,I dont place all the blame on Matt but when your driving the car you are responsible for everyone aboard. :D

Matt will prolly wind up as wide receiver or tight end,he has the size for either position.

possum

11-06-2004, 11:48 PM

I've listened to everybody I've been around tonight talk about how Jones lost the game that where that came from. Receiver or tightend, more than likely.

F B

11-07-2004, 01:33 AM

Ive got the second half taped but I didnt get to watch or listen to the game yet so I cant comment on Matt's play.

But just from seeing the score it looks like our defense made another teams quarterback look very good for what, the 4th week in a row?

F B

11-07-2004, 09:38 AM

Now Ive watched the second half...

Matt made some plays where he looked like a senior quarterback but on the two interceptions (especially the one with 50 something seconds left) he looked like a freshman.

On SC's last touchdown their receiver should have been tackled at the 13 for little or no gain but the Razorback player didnt wrap him up.

If we cant get rid of Nutt, maybe Wommack needs to be looking for another line of work.

MountainBuck

11-07-2004, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by F B:
Now Ive watched the second half...

If we cant get rid of Nutt, maybe Wommack needs to be looking for another line of work. I agree 100%, This is by far the worst "Defense" if you can even call it that I've seen in my 40 something years of being a Razorback Fan. I've seen many High School Football players that could tackle better than these guys, And that is part of just basic fundamentals which goes directly back to the coaching. That Tackle "or lack thereof" that happened at the 13 Yard line you referred to was simply Pathetic!!!! Womack makes John Thompson and Keith Burns look like they were Defensive Genuises, What I wouldn't give to have them back.

deerhunter

11-07-2004, 10:01 AM

I dont think we will be making that bowl appearance this season. graemlins/smack.gif

MountainBuck

11-07-2004, 10:05 AM

I sure hope we don't make a bowl appearance, I don't think I could stand the embarrassment, even if we were playing Podunk State for the Blind.

Ruger

11-07-2004, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by F B:
Now Ive watched the second half...

Matt made some plays where he looked like a senior quarterback but on the two interceptions (especially the one with 50 something seconds left) he looked like a freshman.

On SC's last touchdown their receiver should have been tackled at the 13 for little or no gain but the Razorback player didnt wrap him up.

If we cant get rid of Nutt, maybe Wommack needs to be looking for another line of work. I like Nutt but he has to take himself out of the play calling equation and let a coordinator in the sky box make the call as he sees it. He is so predictable...2nd and long it's a pass play, 3rd and long it's a freaking draw!

I have to disagree with DH...when your offense puts up 30+ points on the road and you still lose, one has to blame the defense.

I still say that was a designed play for Monk and Baker(?) or whoever it was were there...Matt was rushed and he didn't have time to set up for the back of the endzone throw. Two things can be said about that...1) he has a lot of faith in his receivers (he has said this last week) and 2)it was a bad decision...hindsight says that he should have ate it.

In reality, they tried to catch USC off guard and they were prepared for it. Like I said, Nutt is predictable. After big gains, he tries to go deep the very next play...he forgot he was playing against Holtz ( a football legend).

Womack better be on the hot seat or the boosters will have someone else there.

deerhunter

11-07-2004, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by Ruger:

I have to disagree with DH... Well fine then. :D

Ruger

11-07-2004, 09:32 PM

LMO...DH, you going to the playoff game Friday night at Lepanto? We are and then we are heading to Fayetteville to watch the Hogs play.

cpeuban

11-07-2004, 10:18 PM

I've always said this about Matt Jones: Other than Mike Vick, he's the most athletic college quarterback I've ever seen. And he's the most fun to watch. But he's also the stupidest. I finally just gave up on him at the end of the Texas game this year. I still feel the dagger in the heart from that game two months ago.