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Gooch
09-11-2004, 09:37 AM
Who do you think is going to win tonight and what do you predict the score to be?
I'm saying 21-17 Arkansas!!!

DODGEMAN
09-11-2004, 09:43 AM
Pat why would you put me in such a perdicament? I hope WE win but I don't think we will, since you want a score I will say 35-17. But you know if Texas can they run it up as high as they can, especially after last year. I just hope our hometown boy can catch another TD pass. graemlins/thumb.gif

Gooch
09-11-2004, 09:53 AM
I think that we have a better team than what a lot of people think. We'll know after tonight!

DODGEMAN
09-11-2004, 10:00 AM
You are right Pat, this will be their season, if it goes well I think they will do alot better than some think, if it don't go well then it could be a long season. :(

Gooch
09-11-2004, 10:06 AM
My son and his girlfriend are going up there today. I hope that he doesn't have a long trip home! I'm going to be watching it on ESPN from my recliner! graemlins/thumb.gif

DODGEMAN
09-11-2004, 10:14 AM
If we don't go to Byhailia, MS to watch the drag races, I figure I will be between the NASCAR race and the game until one of them gets out of hand. I did have a buddy buy three of the skybox season tickets, he invited me and my son, may have to go with him at some point?

Gooch
09-11-2004, 10:17 AM
I'm not fighting the crowds, especially when it's going to be on T.V. This all goes back to my little road rage problem!!!

DODGEMAN
09-11-2004, 10:23 AM
I don't recall you covering that over there on the hate thread? But I think if people drive stupid you should be able to shoot them. :mad:

What you would have to do is just drive close, rent a cab to take you to and from the game. graemlins/thumb.gif

Gooch
09-11-2004, 10:30 AM
I had way to many things that I hate to list in the other topic! :D

DODGEMAN
09-11-2004, 10:34 AM
I think we finally figured out it was better if we not dwell on those things, only brings you down. smile.gif

I just hope I am not down after the game tonight, and I don't have a greater degree of hate for Texas. :mad:

deerhunter
09-11-2004, 02:31 PM
Did Pat mention he hates mailmen? :D tongue.gif

deerhunter
09-11-2004, 02:32 PM
Oh yeah......Hogs 35 horns 28. graemlins/thumb.gif

DODGEMAN
09-11-2004, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by deerhunter:
Did Pat mention he hates mailmen? :D tongue.gif First I don't deliver his mail, second he has never met me. :D

Now back to important matters I sure hope yall boys are right about them hogs. :confused: We will soon find out? Go Hogs

Bowman
09-11-2004, 06:36 PM
I love the hogs but I am afraid they arent going to get a win tonight,,

WarblerWatcher
09-11-2004, 07:10 PM
Texas 34 - Arkansas 17 http://img57.photobucket.com/albums/v173/bjgobble/cry2.gif

xring
09-11-2004, 07:14 PM
Arkansas, 10 Texas 6

rjet
09-11-2004, 08:08 PM
Hogs 27 Horns 20

xring
09-11-2004, 09:44 PM
Sorry about that overly optimistic post!!!

rjet
09-11-2004, 10:21 PM
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYY.

What a game!!!!!!!, birmingham catch was awesome, scared the crap outta me with those 2 defenders on his arse. Kinda worried the first 5 minutes. Glad to see the NEAB gettin some play time, yall gotta tell him to be careful in that end zone though.
XRING, get optimistic again.
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA PIG

DODGEMAN
09-11-2004, 11:46 PM
Just got home from Jonesboro, been listening to the game. Good game, hope that interception doesn't haunt us. graemlins/smack.gif

DODGEMAN
09-12-2004, 12:08 AM
Crap :mad: graemlins/smack.gif

fairweatherhunter
09-12-2004, 12:09 AM
Damnit!

fairweatherhunter
09-12-2004, 12:10 AM
Safety killed us!

rjet
09-12-2004, 12:10 AM
graemlins/censored.gif texas, was a great game and I am proud of the boys. Gonna give some thoughts on the campfire.

[ September 12, 2004, 07:06 AM: Message edited by: Mr. Chitlin ]

deerhunter
09-12-2004, 12:11 AM
The game was ours and we gave it away. :mad:

DODGEMAN
09-12-2004, 12:12 AM
Where do you live rjet. graemlins/smack.gif I can't imagine how Matt feels right now? :confused: :(

Buck
09-12-2004, 12:13 AM
Matt gave that one away,or who ever called that play with him running around and fumbling,then to run with no time outs left.I'm pissed,that game was in the bag.

deerhunter
09-12-2004, 12:14 AM
He should feel pretty guilty,He's a senior and by all means should have known better than to carry the ball with one hand especially inside the red zone.

Buck
09-12-2004, 12:15 AM
I dont think Matt feels too bad,a camera shot of him after the fumble,he stuck his tongue out and winked,I thought the rest of the team worked their asses off.

deerhunter
09-12-2004, 12:15 AM
Just reminds me of Clint Sturners fumble a few years ago,that game was ours as well. :rolleyes:

DODGEMAN
09-12-2004, 12:16 AM
He did have it tucked away, unlike last year when he was holding it out when the boys hit it and cost them another game. graemlins/smack.gif

Buck
09-12-2004, 12:18 AM
near the 15 yard line what the heck was he doin runnin around with the ball anyway,all we needed was a field goal to take the lead.

DODGEMAN
09-12-2004, 12:20 AM
Buck Matt is a great college quarterback, he just tries to do too much. graemlins/smack.gif

deerhunter
09-12-2004, 12:20 AM
It should have been three hand offs to run the clock and then the field goal unit. graemlins/smack.gif

Buck
09-12-2004, 12:24 AM
He might be,but his attitude sucks,he has that dont give a shit attitude,he did the same thing last year,I would like to at least see a little remorse,and not grinning and winking,like last year and tonight,and if he is so great,why didnt they have a better record last year.I know they went to a bowl,but it dont take a world beater to make it to a bowl now days.

Buck
09-12-2004, 12:25 AM
Deer hunter you are 100% correct.

rjet
09-12-2004, 12:25 AM
Yall are awful good at the game sittin behind the TV. You dont think them boys wanted to win the game a little more than you did. Get real, and if you disagree then you can kiss my hairy arse. Yeah, we are all disappointed but the boys played one hell of a game against one of the best teams in the nation.

deerhunter
09-12-2004, 12:26 AM
I think he just plays too reckless.

DODGEMAN
09-12-2004, 12:27 AM
You noticed I said college, I don't think he is NFL material, but I maybe wrong? :confused:

Buck
09-12-2004, 12:27 AM
I agree,they all played a hell of a game,except for Jones,thats my opinion,and I aint into ass kissin.

DODGEMAN
09-12-2004, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by deerhunter:
I think he just plays too reckless. I don't think it is reckless, I think he just plays too hard sometimes.

deerhunter
09-12-2004, 12:29 AM
I think Jones had a pretty good game up untill the fu...the fu....the fu...the fumble...dam it I just cant hardly say it. graemlins/smack.gif

rjet
09-12-2004, 12:30 AM
Buck, You are wrong, Jones played his best dude. I guarantee he is just a bit more disappointed than you. I dont think you are giving your opponent enough credit. Texas is no slouch and Arkansas did kick their ass tonight win or lose.

Buck
09-12-2004, 12:34 AM
I'm not gonna argue with you about it,but I think Jones lost his cool or got overwhelmed or whatever,the last couple minutes of the game,and I hope he feels worse than I do,for his team mates sake.

rjet
09-12-2004, 12:38 AM
Possibly did, but am sure he feels a hell of a lot worse than you do. Have you ever worn a jock strap in a high profile game?? Unless you have I dont see too much room for criticism. Not trying to personally slam ya but us sideline sitters have no idea what these boys are going through. And like I said earlier, I think they probably want to win the game a little more than we do.

deerhunter
09-12-2004, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by rjet:
And like I said earlier, I think they probably want to win the game a little more than we do. I dont know..........I wanted them to win pretty dang bad. :D

DODGEMAN
09-12-2004, 12:42 AM
For that very reason, I think that he tries too hard, and sometimes it costs. I will agree with Buck, when he is on the sideline after one of these incidents, I think I would be looking for something to hide under, and he is just relaxed and kinda smiling when he was talking to someone, I would be pulling hair out, I think? graemlins/smack.gif

deerhunter
09-12-2004, 12:44 AM
That calmness could help him make it at the next level.

Buck
09-12-2004, 12:46 AM
You seem to be doin a dam good job,even if your not trying,I have my opinion and you have yours,and I havent said one word against you.I played high school bball,never went to college,but when I screwed up,I'd have died and went to hell before I would have smiled,grinned or winked,afterwards,and you can slam me all you want to,but I saw it that way.

deerhunter
09-12-2004, 12:48 AM
Hey you two just say what you really mean and quit beating around the bush. :D

rjet
09-12-2004, 12:49 AM
You are one hell of a player sittin on your butt there dodgeman. You think Jones did that on purpose and takes these games as just a good time cause he has a smile on his face. COmne on dude, you do not get to his level by not taking this game serious. If he just smiled and didnt give a crap, Nutt as a real coach woulda done kicked his butt out of the state. We all react different to situations that are happening. Yeah I am biased, I like Jones and his attitude. BUt if you think he is just f'ng around back there than youare the biggest fool. Whoever you are.

deerhunter
09-12-2004, 12:52 AM
Dont you live in Texas? graemlins/smack.gif

Man you gotta move and soon. tongue.gif

DODGEMAN
09-12-2004, 12:56 AM
I am thinking rjet had too much crown while watching the game graemlins/smack.gif Richard reread my posts, I said he tried too hard, and if he deals with defeat with a smile he is cut for a different tree than I am, but he has to be look where he is and look where we are. Unless you played football you don't really know. graemlins/smack.gif

Buck
09-12-2004, 12:56 AM
Dodgeman,how could you be sooo stupid. tongue.gif

rjet
09-12-2004, 12:56 AM
BUCK,
if i offended you than sorry, not gonna go back and re-read posts to see if i did. My main point is that you as one that have played the games know that you dont go to lose. These guys play at a level that I myself cannot concieve and dont think they would be there unless they were serious. We all have our own distinct personalities and I find it kind of refreshing that jones can go in there and act like nothing bothers him. DO you really think that is the case though?? I serioussly doubt it. I guess it really doesnt matter cause we have no say inwho leads our team, he is the man and I personally like him.

deerhunter
09-12-2004, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by Buck:
Dodgeman,how could you be sooo stupid. tongue.gif It just comes naturally for him. tongue.gif :D He cant help it.

rjet
09-12-2004, 12:59 AM
I am thinking rjet had too much crown Dodgmean is an idiot, I had too much jim beam, not crown. Any fool that cant tell the difference has no right to critique sports. graemlins/smack.gif

DODGEMAN
09-12-2004, 01:01 AM
See I knew you had too much, forgot what you were drinking. graemlins/smack.gif

And don't lie deerhunter, you know I am the smartest person you know, or at least on this street. :D

Buck
09-12-2004, 01:02 AM
I think thats the difference,I really didnt like him last year,now this just my opinion,so dont jump down my throat,I dont feel like he has the leadership attitude to take this team near as far as their talent will let them,and I HOPE i am wrong,if I am I guarantee you I will admit it at the end of the season.

DODGEMAN
09-12-2004, 01:04 AM
What do we have after he leaves, I hope whomever it is he gets some snaps this year. I think the next two years will be really good, don't yall?

Buck
09-12-2004, 01:07 AM
If this bunch stays healthy,they are gonna be TOUGH to handle in a year or so.Is the back up QB a senior,he did a good job last week while he was in there.

rjet
09-12-2004, 01:08 AM
It sucks losing a game that was so close. BUT we played the number 8 team and kicked their butt. They knew they played a game tonight. Yeah, we coulda won it, but we didnt. Aint the first time and wont be the last. But the boys showed the perseverence that makes me proud to be a hog fan. I guarantee you folks watched this game that had no interest in it (like I watched Holtz's boys) cause it was such a good game. Now what is gonna piss me off is when we lose to some no name. We allways play the top teams good.

DODGEMAN
09-12-2004, 01:09 AM
I don't know Buck that is what I was wondering, I don't keep up with that very well.

Buck
09-12-2004, 01:12 AM
I'm goin to bed,you FOOLs keep rjet off my ass while I'm asleep :D

deerhunter
09-12-2004, 01:13 AM
The hogs have three back up QBs and they are all freshmen. Now I'm off to bed as well.................night fellers.

DODGEMAN
09-12-2004, 01:15 AM
There is a joke there but if I post it the whistles will blow for 30 minutes.

I like the way Matt plays but I have to agree with you Buck about his attitude on the sideline, if that is the way he deals with that situation, he needs to change, it just doesn't look good. JMO

rjet
09-12-2004, 01:37 AM
Well dodgeman, why dont you and buck volunteer to coach ole mat on how to act on the sidelines. You 2 bozos seem to be pretty good at sittin on the sidelines and givin advice. Now that being said I do not know buck and he coulda been a major NCAA quarterback and know his business. But am pretty sure ole dodgeman ...aka. doodooman probably sat the bench in peewee football and holds a grudge. Lots of experts out there, amazing any team can lose a game.

DODGEMAN
09-12-2004, 02:05 AM
I played from 7th through 12th, was the center, I touched the football more than anyone. graemlins/thumb.gif

I think the Hogs really played good tonight, and Matt is a good college quarterback, is he next level material, I don't really think so. But he has called and I agree to give him some pointers so you never know. graemlins/smack.gif :D

rjet
09-12-2004, 02:43 AM
Well now, that explains a lot.

Gooch
09-12-2004, 06:47 AM
Damn what a game! We did have it in the bag and lost it. Can't dwell on this, but everybody got their money's worth. Why in the world would Texas and Arkansas ever want to end this series? Look at the attention this game got last night and all the national exposure. I just don't get it!!!

Drakes1st
09-12-2004, 09:11 AM
Well I thought it was one hell of a game win or loose...our team speed really surprised me ...they just let benson get past them too much early...I thought Jones looked good...the fumble did sting...our running game looks a little weaker..but the pass has definetly improved..gonna be a good year..theres alot of great talent up there !

bwhntr
09-12-2004, 10:36 AM
Still gotta say......GO HOGS GO...............
WWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPIGGGGGSSSSSSSSOOOOOIII IEEEEEEE :D

Rattle-m-up™
09-12-2004, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Buck:
Matt gave that one away,or who ever called that play with him running around and fumbling,then to run with no time outs left.I'm pissed,that game was in the bag. Well, the play happened right in front of me, and for once the ball was tucked, it just got knocked out from behind...had it not been for matt jones, arkansas wouldnt have been in the game...he threw for about 250 and ran for nearly 100, without him arkansas had no running game...he didnt give that one away..he gave us a chance to win....I did see him stick his tongue out and wink...and for me, thats a good sign..he's doing what he's supposed to be doing, out there having fun...did you have fun watching the game...if you did, then you have nothing to complain about.

Rattle-m-up™
09-12-2004, 02:25 PM
Another thing...of all of the games i have attended in fayetteville and in little rock...that was bar none, the loudest crowd i have been a part of...from beginning to end the crowd was into the game...75000, record crowd...for those who have never had a chance to go see them play and be part of the atmosphere, you missing a real treat.

rjet
09-12-2004, 04:00 PM
graemlins/thumb.gif

DODGEMAN
09-12-2004, 04:42 PM
Good post ole young one, and that is on my to do list. graemlins/thumb.gif

Buck
09-12-2004, 04:47 PM
I guess I'm just an old grumpy fart.But I will alwayslike the killer instinct,better than the just having fun instinct.

F B
09-12-2004, 05:42 PM
I think the opinion of Matt's attitude is an age thing.

The older guys on here seem to think he doesnt show enough emotion and the younger ones think its OK to do stuff like stick your tounge out and wink when you lose a game.

Im with the older guys on this one but Ill give you the point that he had us in the game to start with.

I guess Im just used to having quarterbacks like Clint Stoerner and Quinn Grovey and lots of others I could name who probably werent quite as gifted as Jones but played their hearts out for the Razorbacks and showed their emotions, win or lose.

I never saw any of them acting like losing didnt bother em.

I never played at that level but I played high school football till I tore up a knee.

And the only thing I can tell you for sure is that if we had lost a game and one of us had done something like that or acted like it didnt bother us to lose, we'd probably still be runnin' bleachers.

MountainBuck
09-12-2004, 05:48 PM
I'll agree with you, I had rather see the boy more serious myself when he is off the playing field, But It's really hard to say that he doesn't put out 100% effort while he is on the field, Sometimes I think he tries to hard, which I guess could be translated to Bad Judgement. But I'd be willing to bet that unless he gets seriously hurt, we will be watching him play on Sundays!!!!

rjet
09-12-2004, 06:03 PM
And the only thing I can tell you for sure is that if we had lost a game and one of us had done something like that or acted like it didnt bother us to lose, we'd probably still be runnin' bleachers.

Now that brings back some bad memories. After gettin our butts whooped we were having a good time on the bus. After we unloaded we spent the next 2 hours running gassers. Is sucks to lose a game, and would bet jones would do anything to go back and not lose that ball and probably keep that tongue in his mouth also. We all deal with tough circumstances in our own way. I really po's me off to go to a game and see fans boo and give the players a hard time (not saying this wase the case last night) when the players are the ones that probably want to win the game a little more than we do (depending on how much we are into the bookie for graemlins/smack.gif .


AS i sit here and boo the cowboys. graemlins/smack.gif

MountainBuck
09-12-2004, 06:07 PM
By Golly, Ole Vinny a'int looking to bad for a 41 year Old Man!!!He may still just have a few Passes left in him. Sure hope he doesn't have to scramble though! And Just for the record I took Dallas and the 5 Points!!!

rjet
09-12-2004, 06:32 PM
Sorry to hear that MB. I learned many years/dollars ago to never bet on a cowboy game. graemlins/smack.gif graemlins/smack.gif graemlins/smack.gif graemlins/smack.gif What is that junk on the field(besides cowboys)? Looks like ice, no it aint that cold up there yet.

MountainBuck
09-12-2004, 06:39 PM
If it's ice in a domed stadium they really have problems!!! I don't know I'm not watching it on tv, just keeping up with games on computer. I'm at work!!!!Philidelphia is going to break me even I think, I took Eagles and gave 9 points, think I'm pretty good shape on that one.

rjet
09-12-2004, 06:51 PM
Now the eagles are probably a team to wager on. As much as I hate to say it do believe this might just be their year. Damn, Vikings just scored again. Culpepper just connected to campbell for 43 yard td. makes it 35 to 17

MountainBuck
09-12-2004, 06:59 PM
Way we play is we bet on every NFL game by the point spread. Sometimes its hard picking a winner, Like the Detroit and Chicago game today. There is 8 of us in the betting pool. Been doing it for years. Makes every game interesting though!!

DODGEMAN
09-12-2004, 10:09 PM
Yall were talking about running bleachers, I remember when I was in 10th. grade running 63 wind sprint, cause that was how many points we got beat by. That will definately make you aware of loosing. :(

Rattle-m-up™
09-12-2004, 10:15 PM
Back to the hogs...there is no doubt in my mind that matt puts forth 100 percent...and the killer instinct thing...for cryin out loud, he could have went down on a knee and they would have had a chip shot field goal....but instead he thought he had a shot at the end zone...sounds like a killer instinct to me...im glad he stuck his tongue out...he's 21 years old, playin for the arkansas razorbacks...if he aint out there havin fun and having the time of his life...then you should be worried....maybe im just partial because i know him...

deerhunter
09-12-2004, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Rattle-m-up:
maybe im just partial because i know him... and because your still a kid to. :D

DODGEMAN
09-12-2004, 10:20 PM
I agree as I posted last night I think he tries too hard. Tries to make things happen, when he should just accept that is it. The only thing I said is he should act different after a situation like last night. No I don't want to see him crying on the sideline just not acting as if it means nothing to him, if that is the way he copes with it, he should change. He played a hellofa game though. Still proud of them all.

Rattle-m-up™
09-12-2004, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by DODGEMAN:
I agree as I posted last night I think he tries too hard. Tries to make things happen, when he should just accept that is it. The only thing I said is he should act different after a situation like last night. No I don't want to see him crying on the sideline just not acting as if it means nothing to him, if that is the way he copes with it, he should change. He played a hellofa game though. Still proud of them all. why should he change the way he copes with a loss? to make people happy? to heck with that...hes a freakin college kid..if he gives all he has on the field you should be happy...how he acts off the field as long as he stays out of trouble should be no one's concern...maybe he doesn't like the way some people cheer or dont cheer...should they change to make him happy?

DODGEMAN
09-12-2004, 10:36 PM
If you just lost a million dollars you wouldn't be all up beat and laughing, I feel laughing and cutting up isn't the way a person should be after a big loss. JMO

Rattle-m-up™
09-12-2004, 10:39 PM
I didnt know he lost a million dollars.....

DODGEMAN
09-12-2004, 10:47 PM
Misquoted again, I said if you lost a million, you wouldn't be laughing, he looses this big game and he is on the sideline laughing, he definatley deals with it different than most would. :confused:

PUDDLE
09-12-2004, 10:47 PM
In some ways, he may have. :rolleyes:

Rattle-m-up™
09-12-2004, 10:55 PM
Arkansas is unranked, only has 9 seniors on the team and matt is the only starter returning on offense,and they play the 7th ranked team in the country down to the wire in a game that was probably one of the best games to watch that i've ever seen, if matt jones is not in the game, arkansas is not even in it. You talk about matt trying to do too much...well, if he doesnt play like he does..then you dont get the gamebreaker plays...it just goes with the territory...you guys would have something to complain about even if they had won...you wanna blame someone...blame the center for that safety...im not going too, but maybe you should. Why are ya'll making such a big deal about how he acted after the game anyway...i never even thought much of it until i read about it on here...its just like deerhunting...no matter what, you guys are going to find something to complain about.

PUDDLE
09-12-2004, 11:05 PM
I'm not making a big deal. When you are a high profile senior making a mistake in a game winning situation, with what could be his future watching, it could have cost him a million dollars down the line. Matt Jones is a hell of great guy and a good football player. I just want him to good for him and the team. He did not lose the game for the hogs. They are a team. Win as a team, lose as a team. I'm just saying that was noticed. If Matt plans an NFL future, I hope that doesn't hurt his chances.

Rattle-m-up™
09-12-2004, 11:12 PM
i can see your point puddle...but if he's gonna be a pro, they'll see what he has in the combines and individual workouts...i know its a hard pill to swallow loosing like that, but you guys shouldnt criticize things like that..you have no clue what goes through his head...for all anyone knows, he may not have slept a wink last night thinking about it...and if that were true, would you guys feel better about it?...this will be my last post

PUDDLE
09-12-2004, 11:17 PM
No. Thats what I'm trying to tell you. It don't matter to me. OUT

Buck
09-12-2004, 11:18 PM
I'm just curious,what is the record for the hogs since jones has been QB,if he is the next thing closest to walkin on water,as you make him out to be,they should have gone undefeated the last couple seasons,didnt the hogs send 4 players to the NFL,maybe more I dont recall,but their record,if I remember was less than stellar,maybe they just needed a better leader.Now for this team,if Jones is the ONLY reason they even stayed in the game as you believe,then Monk,Poole Birmingham,and a couple more guys,plus the entire defense,must not have done a dam thing,or they would have won going away.I thought I saw a couple really good catches and a few great runs,but I must have been mistaken,because,hell Jones did it all.Now I think Jones played a good game,but his attitude after screw ups is what bothers me,and thats just my opinion,so there aint no need for any name callin,we just happen to disagree.I think I can see you stickin your tongue out at me now :D
And the million dollars that was mentioned being lost might have been for a future contract,I havent ever seen a pro player with that attitude.

Rattle-m-up™
09-12-2004, 11:20 PM
you guys would make great Sooner fans.

Buck
09-12-2004, 11:24 PM
I'm a slow typer,and didnt see your latest post,how do you know what goes through his head? are you psycic (sp),for all you AND I know he might have slept well,just because yall are both young doesent mean you KNOW what he thinks or feels,and some of old farts dont.Its getting late and I gotta go to work early,so dont be mean to me while I aint here. smile.gif

Rattle-m-up™
09-12-2004, 11:27 PM
you made my point, i dont know what goes through his head...im sure he's his own worst critic...he just shows emotions differently than most...even when the hogs have a good play or win, he's pretty low key...thats just how he is...if you dont know that after four years then i dont know what to say....

deerhunter
09-12-2004, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by Rattle-m-up:
this will be my last post I think you lied. :D

Buck
09-12-2004, 11:30 PM
OK I'm fixin to go to bed for sure now,but maybe he has just played for fun all four years,what has their record been?

DODGEMAN
09-12-2004, 11:52 PM
I go take a shower and come back and here yall are in the same place. graemlins/smack.gif

Another topic we agree to disagree on, imagine that. graemlins/smack.gif

F B
09-13-2004, 12:10 AM
We're making a big deal about it because he acted like he didnt act like losing bothered him at all.

Im not blaming the loss on Matt and I have no doubt that he wanted to win the game.

What bothers me (and most everyone who has replied except for you Rattle) is that the loss didnt seem like a big deal to him.

Razorback football is serious to most of us and it should be to him too.

deerhunter
09-13-2004, 12:18 AM
My sentiments exactly FB......

Rattle-m-up™
09-13-2004, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by F B:
We're making a big deal about it because he acted like he didnt act like losing bothered him at all.

Im not blaming the loss on Matt and I have no doubt that he wanted to win the game.

What bothers me (and most everyone who has replied except for you Rattle) is that the loss didnt seem like a big deal to him.

Razorback football is serious to most of us and it should be to him too. How do you know it isnt serious to him, just because he doesnt need to be put on suicide watch after a tough loss doesnt mean he doesnt take it serious...

Rattle-m-up™
09-13-2004, 08:46 AM
Another thing...i saw DeCori Birmingham on the sideline right after the fumble and he had a little smile on his face as well...apparently he doesnt care either.....

DODGEMAN
09-13-2004, 09:35 AM
Let it go Rattle, just let it go. graemlins/smack.gif

F B
09-13-2004, 10:27 AM
I guess we were just raised different and Ill leave it at that.

DODGEMAN
09-13-2004, 11:08 AM
FB that boy ain't fully raised yet, and I guess none of are? :confused:

luv2deerhunt
09-13-2004, 12:38 PM
Matt Jones is loose. He is on the football field and he is on the basketball court. A fumble or interception is just a lot more important than a turnover in basketball. He has won a lot of big games and lost a few. He is only 21, very young for a Senior Quarterback. Vincent Young, the Quarterback for Texas is 21. He is a Redshirt Sophmore. Matt Jones is a great athletic ambassador for the State. Would you rather he be crying or cussing on the sideline. He is a solid young man that spent a lot of time this summer speaking to youth groups. He may or may not be "next level" material for the NFL. I believe he will be a great H-Back/Back up Quarter Back. The most important things is from all indications he will make it to the "next level" in the game of life.

D
09-13-2004, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by F B:
We're making a big deal about it because he acted like he didnt act like losing bothered him at all.
Razorback football is serious to most of us and it should be to him too. You ever think that the guy is out there to have fun? Maybe he does have the right attitude. Maybe his GRADES and EDUCATION are first on his list. Maybe he sees football as a game that you are suppose to ENJOY. The most important lesson those kids could learn is that winning every game is not all that they should focus on. Getting and education, having fun, and being a good sport are far more important that winning a game. I think a lot of past and future players needed to take a few notes from Mr Matt Jones.

F B
09-13-2004, 01:47 PM
Sure it oughta be fun to him.

It was probably fun to 99% of the guys out there too but they arent the ones who stuck their tounge out and winked at the camera after a loss that should have been a win! :rolleyes:

Thats the only point Im trying to make and yall dont get it and Id probably end up with carpal tunnel before I convinced you so Im gonna give up.

If yall think that stuff is acceptable then so be it.

But I dont and apparently quite a few other fans dont either.

But thats our right as fans I guess.

Youll get no argument from me about him being a heck of an athlete and I also think he's a very good college quarterback.

And he might be the next Michael Vick in the NFL for all I know but Ill bet that if his team loses and he smiles and winks at the camera there wont be very many fans making excuses for it.

Ruger
09-13-2004, 04:18 PM
I do remember seeing Matt sitting on the turf on the sideline pondering that moment. What I saw after that was confidence. He, along with the team and the AR faithful had no doubt in their mind that WE were going to get the ball back and win that game.

I bet he thought about that moment more than he would ever share. We have seen him for 4 years make big play after big play. We have seen him make some bad plays...he acts the same after a 50 yard td run as he does after a fumble or interception. Matt Jones is one heck of a qb. He along with his team amtes have brought pride and recognition back to this Razorback program.

Hell, I watched the FSU/Miami game and saw the most winningest coach in DIV 1 history make one the most bone headed calls on offense that stopped the clock for Miami and gave them last 30 secs to win the game. Still think he is a great coach...

deerhunter
09-13-2004, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by Ruger:


Hell, I watched the FSU/Miami game and saw the most winningest coach in DIV 1 history make one the most bone headed calls on offense that stopped the clock for Miami and gave them last 30 secs to win the game. Still think he is a great coach... I'll bet that coach wasn't smiling though,prolly frowning and cursing :D and blaming someone else.

Ruger
09-13-2004, 08:17 PM
Bobby Bowden took it on the chin...remained expressionless. Still a task at hand...never say never. Hindsite is 20/20...

Armchair qb's/ coaches can and will judge every move, criticize every play. Truth be known, they couldn't be water boy. ;)

deerhunter
09-13-2004, 08:19 PM
Dats some high quality H2O.... :D

DODGEMAN
09-13-2004, 08:30 PM
Cause moma said....... :D graemlins/smack.gif

fairweatherhunter
09-14-2004, 10:29 PM
News....Flash.....Hogs will beat ULM....by 30-40 points. Hurricane Ivan will hit Gulf Coast...some SEC games will be on the wet side this weekend. Ivan expected to blow some small coastal deer into the upland regions of the south.

Ruger
09-14-2004, 10:32 PM
Ivan expected to blow some small coastal deer into the upland regions of the south. [/QB]Too bad we couldn't get one of those hurricanes to come from the north...like to have some of those canadian deer around during the rut! graemlins/thumb.gif

fairweatherhunter
09-14-2004, 10:34 PM
graemlins/thumb.gif

thumper
09-15-2004, 09:55 AM
Matt Jones is a little to laid-back for me as well. That doesn't change the fact that he has taken Razorback football to the next level. He is 2-1 against Texas. Very few Razorbacks can stake that claim. This loss goes back to the same discussion we've had here for years:

Houston Nutt needs to hire an offensive coordinator to call the plays. Houston is too high-strung to call plays in the heat of the battle. Houston admitted after the game that he took the blame for the loss. An offensive coordinator in the booth would not have been influenced by the crowd and heat of the battle. A good corrdinator in the booth would have call the off-tackle, belly play on 3rd and 8 from the 13. That would have centered the ball for a "chip-shot" to take the lead. We could then rely on our defense to preserve the one-point victory. If Texas came back and scored then they would have earned the "W" instead of having it handed to them and we would all be taking about how great Matt Jones and Houston Nutt are for the program instead of questioning their will.

Houston Nutt is a great coach and motivator. He had an excellant game plan for Texas and it almost worked. He just needs someone to make sure the plan is executed with the head and not the heart.

People that know Matt Jones personally will assure you that he is a very competitive. He HATES losing and is as hard on himself as anyone. He proved this with his solitary meditation immediatley following the fumble. He also knew that he would have one last chance to redeem himself. "Never let'em see ya sweat."

I much rather have his demeanor than a "trash-talking, temper tantrum throwing spear-chunker".

DODGEMAN
09-15-2004, 10:10 AM
I am with you on that one thumper, Nutt definately needs an offensive coordinator. I think if we had one of those several of the games in the last few years would have turned out differently.

Oh yea never let them see you sweat, or especially smell you. graemlins/smack.gif

rsfnavy
09-15-2004, 12:28 PM
OK, This is gonna hurt. I have been reading all of the posts associated with this topic, and all I can say is that you guys must be a bunch of fairweather fans. OH well you lost to TEXAS. was it not that long ago when Arkansas was getting beat like a drum to averybody (Danny Ford Days). I remember those days vividly. That is the problem with Razorback fans they can never give credit where credit is due. The Hogs scored the last field goal by getting a good call from a ref who could not clearly see that the pass caught in the middle of the field was actually not a catch at all.
Jones knew that if they scored only a field goal that would have only put them up by one point. With three minutes to play. Oh I guess you guys forgot that TEXAS ran the ball for over 200 yards and was continually running it down the throat of the hogs. Lighten up on the kid, he and Houston Nutt have lead this team to far greater things than have been experianced by Arkansas fans in a long time. They played a good game , they just came up short. Oh yea if any of you guys see a big silver Dodge 4X4 with a longhorn plate on the front. That is me!

Hook,em Horns!

DODGEMAN
09-15-2004, 12:35 PM
Well..................at least you drive a Dodge. graemlins/thumb.gif But from Texas? graemlins/smack.gif

Rattle-m-up™
09-15-2004, 12:36 PM
Boomer Sooner.

thumper
09-15-2004, 12:40 PM
rs, I assume if you saw the ball bounce off of the turf on the Arkansas catch that you also saw the ball bounce off of the turf on Texas' first interception.

Secondly, I am as far from a fairweather fan as one can get. I follow the Hogs every game, every year regardless of their record. I just call things as I see them. Houston Nutt is great for our program, however he continues to make play calling blunders at crucial times.

Thirdly, We Hogs have gotten used to pounding the Longhorns the last three meetings. Now that we play in the best football conference in American. we will always expect to win all of our "tune-up" games with lesser teams from weeker conferences like the Big 12. Nice Bowl record last year for the Big(flop) 12.

rsfnavy
09-15-2004, 01:02 PM
I agree that the SEC is a great conference. I also agree that Arkansas does good against lesser opponants, ULM should be a good practice, especially since Auburn, Georgia, LSU, S.Carolina, And oh yea Florida, And one more Alabama, will also be coming to take advantage and probably win against an inexperianced Arkansas defense. If Arkansas even gets to a Bowl it will be a miracle, Maybe the Landers Dodge Bowl. Oh yea thanks for helping us get to #6.

Rattle-m-up™
09-15-2004, 01:26 PM
i agree, moving to the SEC has stepped our program up...we play a texas caliber team 3 to 5 times a year, just in conference play...

Rattle-m-up™
09-15-2004, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by rsfnavy:
Oh yea thanks for helping us get to #6. you wont be there in a few weeks after OU throttles you...

Ruger
09-15-2004, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by rsfnavy:
I agree that the SEC is a great conference. I also agree that Arkansas does good against lesser opponants, ULM should be a good practice, especially since Auburn, Georgia, LSU, S.Carolina, And oh yea Florida, And one more Alabama, will also be coming to take advantage and probably win against an inexperianced Arkansas defense. If Arkansas even gets to a Bowl it will be a miracle, Maybe the Landers Dodge Bowl. Oh yea thanks for helping us get to #6. r S , shut your pie h O le. Y O u did N 't se E the DeCo R i fumble? The ground cau S ed it...so the calls went both ways. You wanna talk smack about Razorback football, you come to the wrong place.

Who owns the tx choke hold? It spelled before your very eyes...

rsfnavy
09-15-2004, 04:38 PM
I love it when I can get people so upset , just by poking a little fun at ya!. I am actually a razorback fan, I was just trying to see what kind of crap I could get started by putting this up here.

fairweatherhunter
09-15-2004, 06:17 PM
Did someone say fairweather? What the hell's wrong with fairweather? :eek: I think the hogs will fair pretty good this year. I think they are a fairweather team!