Trout fishing is still good both rivers was high this mor..

[varmit_master]

I went this mor for a round for a while . I uses 2 3 way swivels and a bell skinker. So i have 2 hooks on my rod i use 2 small hooks one on each swivel. Set up like catfishing but trout fishing.:wink: On each hook i use a diff. color power egg. This mor i cought 3 doubles. I was using a white and pink power egg. I cought 16 total in know time and turn them back. Just out having a good time. VM :thumb:

[.270Win]

Where are you fishin' VM? Sounds like a lot of fun. :thumb:

.270Win

[varmit_master]

Hi i was fishing where Norfork and White runs together. Get there about day light and you can have some fun. They bite good. I didnt go this mor. But i think i will go in the mor. VM

[odocoi]

seems like a setup that would result in more swallowed hooks when trying for doubles. :confused:

[varmit_master]

I am not trying for doubles!! I am putting 2 diff colors of power egges out there to see which one they like the best.. If they swallow the hook cut the line. The fish will live. VM:rolleyes:

[SDB777]

Do you fly-fish? Just wondering what the guys/gals are using up in that piece of water....... Wife and I are kind of "burned out" on the Little Red, fighting for a "hole" is gettin old......

Scott B

[varmit_master]

Not yet. But if they put the min. water flow. Like (Gov) they are wanting to it will wipe out fly fishing. It will keep the river high all the time. VM:frown:

[odocoi]

The fish "might" live. Most folks just take the few seconds it takes to change baits if something isn't working. To each his own I guess.

[varmit_master]

The fish might live that is funny!!!!!!!:rolleyes: I cought one the other day on a countdown that had 2 gold hooks in it mouth. And had the line cut. I fish that set up most the time with the bottom hook with a night crawer. And the top with a power egg. But that fish must have had 9 lifes......:rolleyes: I have cought a bunch of trout somebody cought and cut the line and they was still living.

[SDB777]

Not yet. But if they put the min. water flow. Like (Gov) they are wanting to it will wipe out fly fishing. It will keep the river high all the time. VM:frown:

Even if the flow rate is increased, you should still be able to fly-fish? The Spring River is very deep in some spots, and it is pretty much a high flow rate river...and fly-fishing is very good there(once you figure out how to fish it). Sink-tip line is required to get down to where the fish are(fishing tip for Spring Rvr).

Don't get me wrong, I don't think that a constant flow is the answer for the river. I think the way it's been done in the past was best for the fish. High flow is necessary to "remove" unwanted plants, and move the sediments around. Constant flow is not an improvement for the fish or the river. But I don't work in the right place to make the decision in either direction.



Scott B

[odocoi]

Wow, and I caught one the other day whose rear end was hanging out by a couple of inches with the hook imbedded and had a terrible infection because someone let the fish swallow the hook. How many of these fish are caught and counted? Not many because it's hard to catch a dead fish! Please try and have some compassion for the fish and not go out of your way to make it easy on yourself. Just a few extra seconds to change baits.

[varmit_master]

[QUOTE=SDB777]Even if the flow rate is increased, you should still be able to fly-fish? The Spring River is very deep in some spots, and it is pretty much a high flow rate river...and fly-fishing is very good there(once you figure out how to fish it). Sink-tip line is required to get down to where the fish are(fishing tip for Spring Rvr).

Don't get me wrong, I don't think that a constant flow is the answer for the river. I think the way it's been done in the past was best for the fish. High flow is necessary to "remove" unwanted plants, and move the sediments around. Constant flow is not an improvement for the fish or the river. But I don't work in the right place to make the decision in either direction.

Hi they are doing that to get the water colder. To put less stress on the fish. To keep the tem around the same all summer long. Right now Bull S min water flow is 210 cfs. And Norfork is 115 cfs they want to get both upto 500 cfs on the min water flow. And alot of fly fisherman say that was put a end to good fish fishing.VM

[SDB777]

I wonder if constant flow would cause the fish to actually spawn? Water temp is too high for any Arkansas rivers that trout are "stocked" in for them to do the deed. Only during high flow does the temp drop in the rivers.

If the trout were to spawn, does that mean new slot limit requirements? Hmmm.....I don't think that they thought this one out to well.



Scott B

[rjet]

Sounds like you should have help the fish out and took the hook out.I will fish the way i want to and YOU fish the way you want to... If you caught the fish . How was it dead? My uncle did own a trout dock on White River and have clean alot of trout for people and seen trout with a swallowed hook and healthy. Must me something in the water over that way you fish.:rolleyes: . VM

VM, I have caught a few trout in my time and have caught many that had a hook or two in em. If the fish isnt lip hooked cutting the line is a lot easier on trout, or any other fish, than trying to get a hook out of em. One thing for sure on trout, you try and get a swallowed hook out and it will be dead.

[John Stiles]

I wonder if constant flow would cause the fish to actually spawn? Water temp is too high for any Arkansas rivers that trout are "stocked" in for them to do the deed. Only during high flow does the temp drop in the rivers.

If the trout were to spawn, does that mean new slot limit requirements? Hmmm.....I don't think that they thought this one out to well.



Scott B
They gotta be spawning in the Ouachta river cause the stocked fish are generally marked bi cut fin or tail, and I've seen a bunch of fish come out with everything intact....no cut fins or obvious other marks! Some of the guys got a tale they tell down around here......."...don't let the WO catch ya turnin any trout back..." Don't know if that's true or not, but I aim to find out. Anyhow, you just pinch the barb with your needle-nose pliars and you won't hardly hurt the fish none....but keep the slack outta yer line!~John:thumb:

[varmit_master]

Hi John the day i cought 55 trout and turn them back there was a W/O watching. He check one guy to see what he had in his bucket. But didnt say a word. Hi John this is out of the Ark. Trout Fishing Guidebook.Catch and Release pointers.
1 Cut the line if the fish has swallowed the hook.
Bronze hooks dissolve more quickly than a black or shiny gold hooks. Rjet you are right. I watch some guys dig the hooks out of some trout they cought and every one floated by. If they would have cut the line it would have save the fish but cost them another hook. :smack: To me a hook is alot cheaper than a fish.When are you going to make it back up this way. Maybe we can get together and go around of fishing. Go late one afternoon with the countdowns after some brown's VM

[John Stiles]

Yeah, you are right about the hooks dissolving that is a fact. My son James...when he was small, and I, went fishing in an overflow from a local lake, and could catch our limit of channel cats about ten inches...we would go every day it ran over the spill way, and were putting them in our pond! We caught many, but they all would swallow the hook so we were biting the line in two right up close. Some people wondered why after we kissed them, we put them in our ice chest. Hahaha! Anyway, them fish all lived and I remember catching one a few days later that had just passed the hook, and the piece of line was still inside him just ready to fall out also! But I saw a couple dead trout too where guys tried to snatch the hook out!~John

[varmit_master]

I wonder if constant flow would cause the fish to actually spawn? Water temp is too high for any Arkansas rivers that trout are "stocked" in for them to do the deed. Only during high flow does the temp drop in the rivers.

If the trout were to spawn, does that mean new slot limit requirements? Hmmm.....I don't think that they thought this one out to well.



Scott B

Hi it is in the Mtn Home paper every day just about. They say the brown's do and some rainbow's spawn. They said it was going to cost 1 million dollars to get Bull S dam fix up for this. And they said 4 million for Norfork dam to get it fix up. Alot of people that own docks on the lakes dont like the idea. The paper said the dock owners said it would draw the lake to low to would keep the rivers at min flow plus put there docks out on dry land with no water. That would put them out of a job. . But the paper said the Gov. said they would have to let the lake full up enuff to keep the rivers at min all summer . Then some of the dock owners said they couldnt get to there docks becasue of to much water.I have a few of the papers they are talking about the min water flow. And on the rivers the trout docks think that much water coming down will hurt the fishing. Less boat rentals. Will but them out of a job. If you want them SDB777 pm me and send me your address and i will mail them to you. VM

[varmit_master]

You are right John on trout the best way is to cut the line. They are so easy to kill . Digging around in one will kill it every time. VM:thumb:

[varmit_master]

Hi John i cought a good trout this mor. 21 inchs long. It had the marking down the side of a Rainbow and had the cutthroat orange/red slash marks on the underside of the jaw. I ask 2 old timmers that trout fish about every day. They said it look like a cross or a mix rainbow/cutthroat.:confused: VM